The Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007

31 Jan

Click the link to see Barack Obama’s press release with respect to legislation he will introduce calling for redeployment of US troops from Iraq to commence by May 1, 2007 and be completed no later than March 31, 2008. It more or less tracks the bipartisan Iraq Study Group’s recommendations.

The thinking is, we invaded it. We got rid of the tyrant. We helped them set up a government. Now, we have a nascent civil / sectarian war brewing where we’re trying to separate Sunni Qaeda and ex-Ba’athist militias from the Shia Mahdi Army. Time for Iraq to get its own act together. Judging by recent events, it’s become the Shia revenge government rather than any sort of unity government. I figure that will go on for several years, and Iraq will be a failed state and eventually be partitioned among the Kurds, Shia, and Sunni. Heckuva job, Bushie.

As for Obama, TPM is right that this is quite the gamble.

12 Responses to “The Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007”

  1. Tatonka January 31, 2007 at 1:24 pm #

    I don’t have a link, but supposedly Obama was recently asked about his lack of experience and is dead-pan reply was, “Well, Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney have an awful lot of experience . . .”.

    ZING !!!!

    Obama has also called for universal health care. So far, I like him a lot.

  2. hank kaczmarek January 31, 2007 at 4:47 pm #

    Who’s going to pay for Universal Health Care?

    I guess it was OK to divide the Balkans, and for us to stay there until, Today? Great Job Billary!

  3. hank kaczmarek January 31, 2007 at 4:52 pm #

    Hillary Clinton 3/2003

    There is a very easy way to prevent anyone from being put into harm’s way, that is for Saddam Hussein to disarm. And I have absolutely no belief that he will. I have to say that this is something I’ve followed for more than a decade. If he were serious about disarming, he would have been much more forthcoming. I ended up voting for the resolution after carefully reviewing the information, intelligence that I had available, talking with people whose opinions I trusted, tried to discount the political or other factors that I didn’t believe should be in any way a part of this decision. I would love to agree with you, but I can’t based on my own understanding and assessment of the situation.

    Hillary Clinton to Code Pink, 3/2003
    With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I’m talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective

    Hillary Clinton Last Saturday, In Iowa
    I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies, so he took the authority that I and others gave him, and he misused it. And I regret that deeply. And if we had known then what we know now, there never would have been a vote, and I never would have voted to give this president that authority. … There are no do-overs in life. I wish there were. You know, I acted on the best judgment that I had at the time, and at the time I said this was not a vote for preemptive war, and the president took my vote and other votes and basically misused the authority we gave him.

    ZING ZING!! Was she lying THEN, or is she lying NOW?
    Hillary Clinton 2003
    And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective.

    Forgive you? NO CHANCE!

  4. Tatonka January 31, 2007 at 5:54 pm #

    Sen. John McCain – October 19,1993

    There is no reason for the United States of America to remain in Somalia. The American people want them home, I believe the majority of Congress wants them home, and to set an artificial date of March 31 or even February 1, in my view, is not acceptable. The criteria should be to bring them home as rapidly and safely as possible, an evolution which I think could be completed in a matter of weeks.

    And now, of course, McCain favors escalation in Iraq. So was he wrong then, or is he wrong now?


    The next 20 months should be amusing, with all the Clinton haters coming out of the woodwork to emote for our benefit. 🙂

  5. Dave January 31, 2007 at 9:45 pm #

    Obama is posturing for the voters. You don’t waste time with something that’s not going to pass. Did he get other leaders to co-sponsor it? Does it have a real chance of passing at this time? If not, don’t waste time putting it up for a vote. It’s not a bill, it’s a publicity stunt.

  6. The Why (Not!) Guy February 1, 2007 at 1:26 am #

    It’s cute watching supporters of the party that renamed the cafeteria’s french fries whining about posturing for voters.

  7. Tatonka February 1, 2007 at 8:30 am #

    Great point. Also the party that calls for anti-flag burning laws.

    Universal health care needs to be discussed again; I for one am glad that Obama is trying to reignite the discussion.

  8. Dave February 1, 2007 at 8:59 am #

    I’m a Democrat. Doesn’t matter; I’ve become disgusted with everyone from both parties.

  9. Haterade February 1, 2007 at 9:57 am #

    I gotta agree with Dave on this one.

  10. dave in Rocha February 1, 2007 at 10:38 am #

    “Who’s going to pay for Universal Health Care?” – Hank K.

    The same people who pay for it in such nations as Canada, England, France, Austria, Ireland, Spain, Sweden, Australia… etc. If these nations can figure out how to do it, then we can too.

  11. Nathan February 6, 2007 at 10:07 pm #

    Actually, in every other industrialized nation. As well as non-industrialized nations such as Iraq, Venezuela, Cuba and a good proportion of Africa.

  12. Stephanie February 13, 2007 at 3:53 pm #

    “Obama is posturing for the voters. You don’t waste time with something that’s not going to pass. Did he get other leaders to co-sponsor it? Does it have a real chance of passing at this time? If not, don’t waste time putting it up for a vote. It’s not a bill, it’s a publicity stunt. ” — Dave

    I agree that Obama does not think it is going to pass. However, many Republicans have said that Democrats are against the war but that they offer no plan for what to do. By putting this bill together, Obama has shown what he would like to do to end the war in Iraq, whether it will be passed or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. If we’re honest with ourselves, we know that no bill will be passed, but if people keep offering alternatives, maybe at some point a bill will be considered.

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