Shorter Jim Ostrowski

27 Feb

No one wants to play with me anymore. And I’m always right.

16 Responses to “Shorter Jim Ostrowski”

  1. Rob February 27, 2008 at 7:16 pm #

    I guess too many people are too “intellectually lazy” to accept teh truth111!!

    P.s. I especially like their frequent favorable references to The Confederacy a/k/a Treason in Defense of Slavery.

  2. Jaquandor February 27, 2008 at 9:03 pm #

    Libertarians never crack into anything more than “teeny minority” status, and they never seem to wonder if maybe something’s wrong with their message as opposed to blaming the MSM, the Internet, everybody else. The notion that maybe Ron Paul never cracked more than 8% was due to his status as a crackpot than the MSM’s grand plot against him.

  3. Robert Harding February 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm #

    Jim will now vent about how the Internet didn’t propel Ron Paul to the White House like it’s now the Internet’s fault. First, he blamed the “MSM” for not covering Ron Paul enough. Now, he blames the Internet.

    Yeah… it couldn’t even been the fact that Ron Paul was never a serious candidate. Don’t blame the Internet and MSM – blame Ron Paul! He was a top headline when he was raising millions in one day on the Internet but he never generated that into success at the polls.

    Of course, I told them a long time ago that they needed to do more than just plant themselves in front of a computer if they want to get recognized, especially since they are more than just a blog – they are an “organization.”

    Basically, Jim just ignored a bunch of great blogs because they don’t agree with his political agenda. And if we don’t want to change the same way he does, then we don’t count either.

    It’s always been about what Jim likes and how he sees it. If he doesn’t like your message, that means your bad.

    That’s why I quit contributing to Free New York. They went on this Ron Paul obsession and didn’t want to hear the truth. That was the downfall of the site – more or less.

  4. Mike Walsh February 28, 2008 at 1:44 am #

    “They went on this Ron Paul obsession and didn’t want to hear the truth.”
    And what is the truth?

  5. Mike Walsh February 28, 2008 at 1:55 am #

    “I guess too many people are too “intellectually lazy” to accept teh truth111!!”

    Another note: when guys like you ignore inconsistencies in your favorite candidate’s statements and actions….and you’re all like your favorite neocon foil…Hank… when you get checkmated on logic you disapear from discourse….

  6. hank kaczmarek February 28, 2008 at 6:01 am #

    What a bunch of bullshit Mike.

    When the FNY Blog went from discussing the issues of NYS, WNY, and
    Buffalo, and went to 24/7 Worship Ron Paul Here, I left.

    You can’t even DEFINE Neo-Con, but you sure like to slap it on someone.

    Harding and I argued on that blog for months, but I’m a Conservative, he’s a liberal—On the Subject of FNY, we’re 100% on target.

    Next time I’m looking for donations for the troops, I’ll forget to ask you Mike. You do TALK a good game of supporting them, but when it came down to it, the lights were out, and nobody was home.

    I could get down to a point by point analysis, but Harding hit it better than I could.

    When liberal AND conservatives think you’re a gang of crackpots, well, HERE’S YOUR SIGN

  7. hank kaczmarek February 28, 2008 at 6:05 am #

    BTW, I think I could buy in to Allen Coniglio’s idea of a “Common Sense Party” before I’m gonna gag down Libertarian Populism.

    And BP, don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t stir up a pot—woooo-hoo, they’re gonna come after you again. At least you kept the same stand from day one–I’m a turncoat so I’m all you’ve been and more.

  8. Rob February 28, 2008 at 8:22 am #

    “When you get checkmated on logic you disappear from discourse”.

    I’ve never seen this happen. Show me where.

    As for hank being our “favorite neocon foil” – FNY is where he was on the list of authors, no?

  9. hank February 28, 2008 at 9:28 am #

    That’s Right Rob–I was a LISTED author. And I still have posting priviliges there if I choose. Jim feels that if he didn’t let me post there still if I want it wouldn’t tie in with his belief in Free Speech.

    but I haven’t been on the authors list for almost a year.

    JO and I arguing about politics is an activity we engaged in as teenagers over Vietnam in High School. And I was one of the many who gave him the honor of being voted “Most LIBERAL” in our senior year.

    Had it not been for the doddering old curmudgeon from Texas who had Perotian visions of being President, I’d still be there. You can find me with some other alumni of “That School on Kenmore Av” on Mazurland.
    Feel free to come by.

  10. Mike Walsh February 28, 2008 at 9:42 am #

    “When liberal AND conservatives think you’re a gang of crackpots, well, HERE’S YOUR SIGN”

    It sure is a sign, isn’t it?

  11. Robert Harding February 28, 2008 at 10:07 am #

    “They went on this Ron Paul obsession and didn’t want to hear the truth.”
    And what is the truth?”

    Mike, the truth is that Ron Paul never stood a chance, no matter how many times Jim tries to shove it down our throats that Ron Paul will be the nominee. Free New York, over the last year, could have done something more productive. Instead, they focused on touting Ron Paul as the Republican nominee-to-be. That is one of the big reasons I left, including the libertarian-style of moderating a website.

    Listen, you guys have to learn that the “our way or the highway” mentality will change nothing. Will you have to work with liberals? Yes. Conservatives? Yes. Moderates? Yes. You can’t do it on your own. If you want to change WNY, you need a coalition. So far, I haven’t seen any efforts to do that. All I see is constant bashing of political and ideological opponents because they aren’t libertarian. That’s the wrong attitude to have, especially in this climate.

  12. Robert Harding February 28, 2008 at 10:11 am #

    “I guess too many people are too “intellectually lazy” to accept teh truth111!!”

    Another note: when guys like you ignore inconsistencies in your favorite candidate’s statements and actions….and you’re all like your favorite neocon foil…Hank… when you get checkmated on logic you disapear from discourse….”

    I don’t ignore inconsistencies with my candidate of choice: Barack Obama. I’ve criticized him and commended him for certain views. No one in my view is the “perfect candidate.” I will gladly debate the issues, but I’m not going to debate Ron Paul for months on end.

  13. Mike Walsh February 28, 2008 at 7:16 pm #

    “Mike, the truth is that Ron Paul never stood a chance”

    Every candidate that ran for president in this primary season had the same type of promotion. How many really had a chance? Most were long shots. Sometimes a long shot catches on. Alan promoted Wesley Clark four years ago. He was a long shot. What does that have to do with the truth? The truth of what?

  14. BobbyCat February 28, 2008 at 10:45 pm #

    Harding makes some common sense points: You will need a coalition to achieve anything. Of course. But…. Coalitions require compromise. Compromise is anathama to most WNY pols, who view life as a zero-sum game – i.e. if my party wins, fuck you. Therefore, compromise and progress are impossible.

    An exception. Now imagine some statesman/leader with a mandate who can pull the warring parties together and forge a compromise. I cannot remember such a leader in WNY. It’s why I support Obama. An Obama win would electrify the world. He would be a messiah to millions of people of color and others. He would counterbalance the sway of Bin Laden to many have-nots. Obama could change the world.

    Is there an Obama in Buffalo? I don’t know if he has any bonafides but Baby Joe, is the kind of leader who could draw a following, assuming, of course, that he could shake off the shackles of party leaders. Those are the guys who have held this area hostage.

    Exception #2. Take-over the Independence Party. Get a bunch of people to change their party affiliation and register as an Independents. It wouldn’t take many people to take over the party and put your people in office. Let’s assume you did that. Now you have some power. What are you going to do with it?
    (That answer is above my pay grade.)

  15. jesse February 29, 2008 at 9:24 am #

    Incredible. Ostrowski and friends decide to hop on the exciting bandwagon that was Dr Paul’s candidacy and a bunch of other folks get sour. Film at 11.

    Seems to me the real root of it is that some folks around here hate more radical libertarians with venom. That’s cool, I guess.

  16. Rob February 29, 2008 at 2:57 pm #

    I’m sad to report that the FNYers aren’t very impressed with us. 😦

    On the bright side, they’re extremely pleased with themselves.

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