Chris Lee's Views: Pablum

1 Jul

After much ribbing about the non-existent and/or empty “views” section of his website, Republican candidate for Congress in the 26th district has finally gotten around to having some.

I am running for Congress to bring real change to Washington, D.C., restore accountability, get people to stop the partisan bickering and start solving the problems families are facing. This is what Western New Yorkers are demanding, and it is what they deserve.

By working together we can make these things happen, and we can get Washington working again for Western New York.

If we do that then we can help create jobs at home, lower taxes for hard working families, develop a real energy policy, and ensure access to affordable healthcare for all Western New Yorkers.

Washington working for Western New York. That’s a great idea. Um, what’s his predecessor been doing along those lines for the past 10 years? It’s all platitudes cribbed from some primer on how to run as a Republican but sounding like a Democrat. Republicans don’t give a shit about “affordable healthcare”. They’re far more concerned with taxation of the wealthiest 1%, not “hard working families”.

The most important thing for our families is having jobs not just for us, but for our children. Right now Western New York is facing the challenge of entering a 21st century economy and not having enough jobs for our children. Fortunately, Western New York is well equipped to face these challenges. We have a world-class workforce, excellent educational institutions and a work ethic second to none. What needs to happen is the government, in Washington and Albany, needs to get out of the way and let businesses do what they do best – create jobs. When I am elected, I will fight everyday for policies that increase the incentives for businesses to take risks, be entrepreneurial and ultimately create jobs.

How is Washington in the way, and would he do to get it out of said way? Taxes and spending, evidently – no surprise, coming from a Republican candidate. The problem is that the Republican party has put the Democrats to shame in terms of the growth of government and government spending at the federal level since George W. Bush came to office. Why are we to believe that Lee would not help perpetuate that state of affairs? Bush has grown government, kept taxes low to help the budget deficit balloon, engaged in nation-building adventures in the middle east and then shortchanged them when it got difficult.

Definitely Washington is broken. Definitely Albany is broken. What can Lee as a congressman do to fix Albany? Again – platitudes that sound phenomenal but have no meat to them.

Lee also says we need a “comprehensive energy policy”:

– Lessen our dependence on foreign oil by increasing American made energy through exploration;
– Promote new, clean, reliable sources of energy;
– Encourage conservation, and;
– Increase investment in research funding for alternative energy.

Respectively, how, what, how, and what? The call from McCain and Bush has been for drilling everywhere. Respectfully, that’s like putting a Band-Aid on an amputation site. Nice sentiment, but it would take literally years – if not a decade – before any such drilling would have any effect on the market. Furthermore, conservation is now in full effect, given the cost of fuel. Price is up, demand is way down. So, if all this is run by the market, why does lower demand equal ever-higher prices?

Again – demand for gasoline has been dropping, yet the price continues to rise. The idea that this is just market forces at work doesn’t fly. In 2008, it is high time that we develop and reach a consensus on a fuel for personal conveyances to replace petroleum. We’re using technology that’s over 100 years old.

Lee also believes that health care is an issue. The buzzword is “market-based”. Anything the Republicans recommend will be characterized as “market-based”, while they will criticize the Democrats’ plans as being “socialized medicine”. Meanwhile, all of the plans being suggested are market-based. No one is proposing socialized medicine.

While Mr. Lee complains that WNY is not getting its fair share of federal dollars, he also argues:

I will fight for a more transparent and fair system that will ensure real earmark reform. Any dollar being spent by the federal government should be done so in the light of day not behind closed doors. I want to change the way Washington does business by ensuring that we have an open system that holds our leaders accountable. Just like a CEO would want, Western New Yorkers deserve to know exactly how their money is being spent – that can only happen with a more transparent and accountable Washington.

How? What sort of transparency is he proposing? And which is it? More fair share, or fewer earmarks?

In other news, Chris Lee held a fundraiser last night. It was a swanky affair at the Marriott on Millersport. All of the Republican glitterati were in attendance, and Tom Reynolds introduced Lee to the crowd. Illuzzi was there enjoying the free food, making subtle threats, and writes:

I had the pleasure of attending what was truly an “All-Star” fundraising event last night kicking off NY 26 Congressional Candidate Chris Lee’s fundraising efforts.

Congressman Tom Reynolds declared the event to have set a new record for a first time candidate’s congressional fundraising event. Over 300 people in attendance!!! Early estimates are over $175,000 raised at the event.

That averages out to over $580 per person.

Lee is an unemployed child of wealth who inherited part of the sell-out of his father’s business. He’s pledged to spend $1 million of his own money on the race. Will he, like Chris Collins, forego his federal salary if elected? I recall Jack Davis making that pledge 2 years ago. Why should taxpayers cut a six-figure check with benefits and pension for a millionaire heir?

39 Responses to “Chris Lee's Views: Pablum”

  1. hank July 1, 2008 at 8:30 am #

    Western New York is facing the challenge of entering a 21st century economy and not having enough jobs for our children!

    No Shit Alan–And Government cannot provide jobs for ALL of them, much as many here would like to see. That’s Communism.

    So, who’s gonna provide the jobs? The 1% of the people who have the money to expand their businesses and supply employment. You remmeber, the people you want to tax to incite class envy, and put your party in total control.

    Did you ever think if you take their money they wont have any to expand and create jobs? Take it–take MORE of it–and you’ll guarantee NO MORE JOBS.

    We have a world-class workforce, excellent educational institutions and a work ethic second to none.

    No shit–And nary a job for ANY of them. Tax the entrepreneurs—tax the small business owner—pile on regulations, paperwork and minimum wages. He just owns the business, it’s not up to him to decide if someone’s worth the state minimum–he has to pay it anyway. And it handicaps the employee because he can’t negotiate his own starting wage. Liberals have done that for him.

    Now complain that small businesses don’t offer health insurance. You’ve taxed, regulated, and forced him to pay wages that the Liberals think are proper. Now complain they won’t expand their businesses–hell they probably end up laying people off because they can’t affford all the shit the government puts on them.

    You don’t often write like you have a paper asshole Alan, but you seem to be going off the deep end lately. Absorbed by hatred for what’s going on, but offer no solution.

    The solution to getting private business and entrepreneurs to expand their businesses is NOT to call them the “Richest 1%” and tax their asses to death. Come up with another alternative.

  2. Derek J. Punaro July 1, 2008 at 8:49 am #

    No, I believe what’s happening is that Mr. Pundit is cranking up the Democrat rhetoric in preparation for another run for office. It’s what happened before the run for EC Leg, and a passing Twitter comment or two indicated as much.

  3. Russell July 1, 2008 at 8:56 am #

    I don’t see much difference between Lee’s statements posted here and those of Jonny Powers that have been posted here previously–just slight variations on the same themes.

    Have you ever expressed concern with taxpayers cutting checks for the likes of John Kerry (the richest man in Congress) or any of the Kennedys or any slew of other federal office holders? Why the sudden concern with Chris Lee’s potential paycheck? Oh….maybe I know why. More one-sided outrage. You don’t really care about taxpayer money. It’s just a tool you use to act like a tool.

  4. Chaz July 1, 2008 at 8:58 am #

    A feel a shill wind a blowin’

  5. Buffalopundit July 1, 2008 at 9:15 am #

    @Hank: Although I have no idea what it means, I will totally cop to having a “paper asshole”. KTHX.

    @Punaro: Nope, I’m not running for anything. I’m a partisan Democrat writing in a partisan Democrat way in advance of a big election season. Nothing new here. It’s what I’ve done, do, and will be doing. The twit you’re referencing has to do with another project I’m considering getting involved with that has nothing whatsoever to do with electoral politics.

    @Russell: Thank you for confirming – as a partisan conservative – that Jon Powers is at least no better or worse than Chris Lee. Chris Lee is a rich, inexperienced empty suit who inherited a company from dadd—– oh, no he didn’t. Daddy sold the company out to a firm in New Jersey. Wow. Now THAT’S a record.

    Powers, OTOH, has actually fought for his country and worked for a living, but so far, I have yet to see any of his opponents give him props for any of that. Which speaks volumes, especially from so-called conservatives.

  6. Russell July 1, 2008 at 9:53 am #

    I’ll give him props for serving our country and going to war. I have huge respect for anyone in the service of our country. I think your personal hero tried to make the point that that doesn’t actually qualify him for much, though.

    Running a business, whether it was family owned or not, is probably a better qualification for holding office than serving in the military, even though one is more admirable than the other. Ask Wes Clark what he thinks.

    Besides, the point was not about Lee’s qualifications versus Jonny’s or their family backgrounds. It was about issues and stances. That’s what I was saying there wasn’t much difference on, just slight variations. Get over your class envy. Even when you finally get to discussing issues, you need to lower it to class envy or conflict.

  7. Buffalopundit July 1, 2008 at 10:06 am #

    @Russell – changing the subject to Wesley Clark? How is that relevant? How does he come into play? Did you attend the Sean Hannity school of argument? (E.g., “well yes, [insert Republican here] did X, but [insert Democrat here] did Y.”)

    It’s like my “Bush sucks” post. Typical numbskull response to that was “well, Carter sucked too”. Beside the point.

  8. Russell July 1, 2008 at 10:32 am #

    You brought up Powers’ war record as a qualification for office and I merely responded to that with what your personal hero had to say about war records. It was completely in context and related to exactly what you said. It’s not at all like your example. You said Lee is inexperienced and Powers fought for his country. I think in light of that statement and the recent statement of Wes Clark, it was perfectly in order and logical. It was totally relevant and not changing the subject at all. It was right on subject with what you said. However, you did change the subject when you switched from the issues to family and personal background. I guess it’s perfectly acceptable for you to do, but Sean Hannity, Republican tactics when someone else does it.

  9. ike July 1, 2008 at 11:27 am #

    “Republicans don’t give a shit about “affordable healthcare”. They’re far more concerned with taxation of the wealthiest 1%, not “hard working families”.”

    lol, time to start skipping your overtly political posts as your rhetoric is now better suited to dailykos than the list of 12 blogs i read.

    Democrats don’t give a shit about affordable healthcare either, they care about government power, and the reliance of the populace on that power. We can’t afford the entitlements we’ve already got on the books, creating more is madness.

  10. Buffalopundit July 1, 2008 at 11:31 am #

    @Russell, Bringing up Wes Clark in this discussion is an irrelevant distraction. No one was talking about Clark and no one was talking about McCain.

    To Hannetize the issue concerning Lee’s family and personal background would go like this:

    BP: Chris Lee is an inexperienced son of a business owner who sold out the business to out-of-towners rather than let the son run it.

    REPUBLICAN HANNETIZER: That pales in comparison to John Kerry / Ted Kennedy / [insert Democratic name here].

    or

    BP: Interesting that people haven’t really given Jon Power props for his military service.

    REPUBLICAN HANNETIZER: Did you hear what Wesley Clark said about McCain? That’s even worse!

    It actually serves only to confirm the underlying point of Chris Lee being a rich, bored dilettante. “Look, Democrats are rich dilettantes, too!” Or that people have glossed over Powers’ accomplishments by referring to him as a 29 year old substitute teacher. “Yes, but Wes Clark is mean to vets, too!” K. Thanks for confirming the point.

  11. Chris Smith July 1, 2008 at 11:31 am #

    I’ve been a Powers guy, but I’m a little disappointed with his lack of specific policy positions other than “lead by example”. I was hoping that as the general election came closer, Powers would elucidate some ideas and plans that were a tad more specific. Right now, my support for him is based solely on his service, his party affiliation, and personality. Not really a firm base from which to operate…

    I also strongly dislike his primary opponents and this Lee guy is pretty uninspiring. Overall, meh.

  12. lulu July 1, 2008 at 11:34 am #

    Russell, I am sick of you repeatedly pulling out the class envy card to counter BP’s posts regarding this race. I am also sick of the raging ageism that dot your comments (in this post I refer to you identifying Candidate Jon Powers as Jonny).

    Will we start hearing about “Chrissy” Lee and “Jacky” Davis from you?

    Your panties get in such a twist over BP’s so called class envy (by the way, it is a fact that Jack Davis was just involved in 5-4 split SUPREME COURT decision specifically addressing the role of personal wealth in congressional races. IMO, that makes the personal wealth and fund raising efforts of he and his opponents in this race a relevant topic for discussion).

    So I emplore you, Russell? Which is worse – Reducing the worthiness of a candidate based on his/her personal wealth or his/her age?

    Dumb ass.

  13. Russell July 1, 2008 at 11:55 am #

    I didn’t bring up the money issue, BP did. I’ve only charged BP with class envy two or three times, far less than he’s tried to use it. I can’t charge BP with classism, but you can charge me with ageism? The Jonny thing is just for Jonny. If it were ageism, I’d say it about any young candidate running for office, but I haven’t. Nice try, though.

    BP, if the conversation had gone that way, maybe it would be Hannitizing. However, your spin is not the way this conversation went.
    You asked, “Why should taxpayers cut a six-figure check with benefits and pension for a millionaire heir?” I merely applied that question to a few millionaire heirs beyond the one you had in mind.

    Furthermore, you said Lee was inexperienced and contrasted that with Powers’ military record. It was not only mentioned to ask why conservatives aren’t giving him props. You mentioned it as qualifying experience which is precisely what Clark said it is not. I think it’s totally logical to point out what your hero thinks of something you’re holding up as worthy. That has nothing to do with spinning an argument or Hannitizing. You say his war experience should count for something. It seems perfectly fair game to point out that someone you hold dear and quote from regularly, not to mention someone that endorsed Jonny, said it shouldn’t.

  14. Buffalopundit July 1, 2008 at 12:00 pm #

    @Russell:

    Furthermore, you said Lee was inexperienced and contrasted that with Powers’ military record. It was not only mentioned to ask why conservatives aren’t giving him props. You mentioned it as qualifying experience which is precisely what Clark said it is not.

    So? What do Clark’s words have to do with my point? I don’t speak for him, and he doesn’t speak for me.

    I think it’s totally logical to point out what your hero thinks of something you’re holding up as worthy. That has nothing to do with spinning an argument or Hannitizing.

    Of course it does. It’s a spin on the Hannity game of, “someone you’ve said nice things about in the past has said something very nasty indeed. Please to be denouncing him now.” Not playing.

    You say his war experience should count for something. It seems perfectly fair game to point out that someone you hold dear and quote from regularly, not to mention someone that endorsed Jonny, said it shouldn’t.

    Not just his war service, but his return to Iraq to set up War Kids’ Relief. Not only did he serve his country, he tried independently to help innocent Iraqi victims of the war. That’s some substitute teacher.

  15. Master Caution July 1, 2008 at 12:23 pm #

    “Furthermore, conservation is now in full effect, given the cost of fuel. Price is up, demand is way down. So, if all this is run by the market, why does lower demand equal ever-higher prices?

    Again – demand for gasoline has been dropping, yet the price continues to rise. The idea that this is just market forces at work doesn’t fly. In 2008, it is high time that we develop and reach a consensus on a fuel for personal conveyances to replace petroleum. We’re using technology that’s over 100 years old.”

    BP, do you think just because gas prices are high and a few people in town start ride shares that demand in other quarters of the world is going to evaporate? Also, conservation isn’t in full effect when you see big minivans with one person inside driving back and forth between the city and Amherst or further. Matter of fact, you had a twitter comment on the main page this morning saying, “Bflo to home, to OP, to home, to the Falls, to OP, back to home” (or something like that). People may be conserving as much as they can within the current system (i.e. combining trips, buying hybrids) but the system is one of the most wasteful in the history of the world. And no amount of carpooling is going to get around the facts: global oil demand has permanently outstripped supply. We are at the halfway point of our global oil endowment; currently we’re pumping more oil out of the ground than at any other time in our history – and more than we will at any time in the future, as well.

    The sooner people begin to realize that this is not a temporary crisis, the sooner we can begin work on permanent solutions.

  16. Russell July 1, 2008 at 12:49 pm #

    I know this will come across as sounding a bit assholey and that’s a risk I’m willing to take, but it’s a question I’ve seriously been wondering for a while. It’s been a dream of Powers, at least for many years, to be a Social Studies teacher in the Clarence school system. He says it himself and I’ve read it other places. He has the education and qualifications. That coupled with his war and charity experience, why can’t he land his dream job? I seriously am wondering that. I’m not just asking for political jabbing. It does lead to the question if Clarence doesn’t see fit to hire him as a Social Studies teacher, why should we hire him as our Representative, but that aside, why has he been unable to land his dream job when he appears better qualified than most people on the teaching job market? I know a few Social Studies teachers in our area and they just have the education, no real world experience like Jonny. Some of them were probably even on the job market the same time as Jonny.

  17. Chaz July 1, 2008 at 12:55 pm #

    Pundit gets owned as usual.

    Great job Russell!

    Pundit is more like Sean Hannity then most bloggers I know.

    Your act is getting old. People are starting to see you for the shill you are.

    I wonder how much the Democrats have invested in this site through the back door.

    FAIL!

  18. lulu July 1, 2008 at 2:25 pm #

    Russell, “The Jonny thing is just for Jonny.”

    Forgive me for not understanding what this means? Please explain why you refer to Mr. Powers as Jonny and refer to Mr. Lee as Mr Lee.

  19. Russell July 1, 2008 at 2:27 pm #

    Where did I refer to him as Mr. Lee?

  20. S Dogood July 1, 2008 at 2:38 pm #

    Off subject, but don’t you just cringe when you see that little rodent Illuzzi at these shindigs ? He rubbed up against me at a presser a few weeks ago and I could not wait to get home and shower. Why do any of these fool politician’s give him the time of day ? You get more truth from the Enquirer than you do on his gossip blog. How could anyone donate to a candidate knowing the candidate would use the donation to advertise with him ?

  21. lulu July 1, 2008 at 2:56 pm #

    Well Russell, I am not going to reread all your comments, and perhaps it was just Lee (not Mr. Lee). Either way, Mr. Powers is the only candidate for which you notably use a nick name (jonny). Please explain why.

  22. Russell July 1, 2008 at 3:01 pm #

    ‘Cause I like to call him Jonny.

  23. ryan July 1, 2008 at 3:26 pm #

    I see Jonny was endorsed by the AFL-CIO recently. Unless you are a union tool, that can only mean bad things for the taxpayers.

    http://www.tonawanda-news.com/local/local_story_183003536.html

  24. Jackson Smiles July 1, 2008 at 5:51 pm #

    Russell apparently you missed the page on the Powers for Congress website where Wesley Clark endorses Jon Powers for Congress. Clark doesn’t feel that just a war record soley qualifies you to run for Congress, but it certainly helps.
    Clark obviously feels that Powers is more than a war record.

    What did Lee ever do? Let his parents sell the company… which moved jobs out of WNY!! So far what have each done for WNY — Lee = lost jobs. Powers = served in Iraq, community service as an Eagle Scout, taught part time in the school districts. Sure he didn’t create a million dollar company, but he didn’t sell it out of WNY either.

  25. Jackson Smiles July 1, 2008 at 5:59 pm #

    Russell – you dumb fuck – Mr. Powers was hired part time as a subsitute teacher as he returned from war after the hiring process had taken place and was traveling with the war documentary Gunner Palace as well as creating a charity orginization for children in Iraq. Had he decided to stay and become a teacher he would have been hired – go ahead ask any of the teachers or administrators in Clarence. I have, I’ve interviewed them for news releases. Also, I don’t recall any press interviews or public statements by the endorsed candidate that show that was listed as his dream job.

    Are you perhaps just a little upset that you didn’t get to be a cowboy when you grew up? Again Russell you prove you just talk out of your asshole… maybe you should borrow your ass-less chaps from your childhood self.

  26. mike hudson July 1, 2008 at 9:21 pm #

    yikes!!!

  27. Buffalo Hodgepodge July 1, 2008 at 10:47 pm #

    This might be the worst thread of comments. Ever.

  28. Snarky Snarkmore McSnarkamaphone July 1, 2008 at 10:52 pm #

    Watch out, HodgePodge, someone’s going to come along and make you qualify that with data.

  29. Russell July 2, 2008 at 8:19 am #

    Hey Smiles, how did my saying that Wes Clark endorsed Jonny Powers lead you to believe that I missed that fact? Obviously your reading comprehension is not your best quality.

    Thanks for answering my question about the teaching situation. When I Googled War Kids Relief there were two or three articles that mentioned Jonny’s real goal of becoming a Social Studies teacher in Clarence. I think it was also included in an NBC piece. Perhaps it’s not flat out stated as his dream job, but his Wikipedia page even lists that as his goal after serving in Iraq. If I knew some Clarence administrators, I would have asked them. I just figured there was an explanation and someone on here would know it. There was no need to react like that. Obviously you thought it was a good question since you asked the adminstrators and intended to pass it on in the news releases you mention.

    Seriously, try taking a remedial reading class. You might want to refresh your insults, too. It’s lame to call someone an asshole when they already acknowledged the question was assholey. But with your reading ability, you must have missed that, too. You might want to look into some anger management as well.

  30. Buffalopundit July 2, 2008 at 8:48 am #

    Maybe I should call Chris Lee “Chrissy”.

  31. Jackson Smiles July 2, 2008 at 3:48 pm #

    Russell,

    I have a break down for you on some of those “extremely rich” people who formed this country. Of the 56 or so people who signed the Declaration of Independence:

    (warning note… I “borrowed” someones research on this)

    Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.
    Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

    Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.

    Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.

    They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

    What kind of men were they?

    Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.
    Eleven were merchants,
    Nine were farmers and large plantation owners, men of means, well educated, But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

    Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

    Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly.
    He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding.
    His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

    Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery,Hall, Clymer,Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

    At the battle of Yorktown , Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

    Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

    John Hart was driven from his wife’s bedside as she was dying.
    Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste.
    For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.

  32. Jackson Smiles July 2, 2008 at 3:54 pm #

    Russell –

    If you’d like a reading comprehension lesson – your “assholey” description applies to your comment not directly to you as it is written. So I just wanted to clarify that you sir are an asshole.

    You also make a point to refute BP’s comments by using Wes Clarks comments:

    You brought up Powers’ war record as a qualification for office and I merely responded to that with what your personal hero had to say about war records.

    In the above comment and string of comments you do not mentioned Clark’s endorsement of Powers. So there was nothing to “misread” unless you have invisible words. I simply pointed out that if Clark feels a war record isn’t going to magically qualify you to be elected, yet still feels Mr. Powers is the right candidate, then surely he feels Mr. Powers has more than just a war record.

    And you were right… it doesn’t anywhere state that being a history teacher was Mr. Powers’ dream job, simply his goal upon returning from Iraq. Did you ever have a goal that changed or improved?

    Dale Ernhart, JR had a goal of being a country music singer. Instead he became one of the best Nascar racers ever… I guess he must be a complete failure for not achieving his goal by your logic.

    Again… you’re a dumb ass.

  33. Russell July 2, 2008 at 4:08 pm #

    Like I said before Smiley, you admitted you asked the question yourself, so I don’t understand why you have such a problem with me asking the question.

    Secondly, you did not merely point out Clark’s feelings. You told me I must have missed the fact that Clark endorsed Powers. Nice try spinning that but the words are not invisible and previous posts do not disappear each time you post. What you said to me is still up there and my statement that Clark endorsed Powers is still there as well. If you can, try to give all of that another read.

    Finally, your posting about the signers of the Declaration of Independence does not refute anything I said. I never said they were “extremely rich” and your post shows that all of them, even the farmers, were well-off. Yes, they risked their fortunes and some of them were stripped of life and liberty and their possessions, but at the time they served, they were not poor by any stretch, just like I said. Thank you for backing me up.

  34. mike hudson July 2, 2008 at 9:26 pm #

    and nine of the signers were definitely brother masons — meaning that contemporary records of their initiations and elevations still exist — and another 11 are thought to be — meaning the formal records have been lost over the past 232 years.

    now what the hell does any of this have to do with anything?

  35. lulu July 3, 2008 at 9:24 am #

    Russell, It is clear to me that your “assholey” tendencies are more attributable to the way you disregard other site commenters’ attempts to draw more discussion out of you rather than due to your beliefs/comments, themselves. Referring to the semantics and grammar and exact words used is juvenile and would not hold water in a face to face discussion. Many important issues are discussed on this site, and the way in which you respond to requests for more in depth support for some of your claims is where I find you the most “assholey.”

    Enjoy picking this one apart, I expect it. (An FYI: I am now done commenting in this thread)

  36. Jackson Smiles July 3, 2008 at 12:06 pm #

    Lil’ Russie-poo – how does serving in Congress without pay mean you are rich? I’m still confused by that one. And owning land doesn’t make you rich, perhaps prominent, but not rich. I own 10 acres of land… doesn’t mean I am rich.

    If we’re going to pick things apart, I didn’t “admit” I asked the same childish question that you asked, I said I had asked them – refering to asking them about Jon and if he would be eligable to be hired there. Your comment wasn’t even really a question more of a demeaning statement showing your inept ability to be a dumb ass. I do believe it’s a worth question to ask of Mr. Powers’ eligability for the position, but I don’t believe because he decided to expand his goal he should be scrutinized for not becoming a full time teacher.

    Last but not least get some glasses :
    “Clark doesn’t feel that just a war record soley qualifies you to run for Congress, but it certainly helps.
    Clark obviously feels that Powers is more than a war record.”

    That was from my original post about Clark’s endorsement of Powers, which included how you failed to mention the endorsement itself and again shows my point that Clark feels that Powers is more than a war record.

    Thanks again for being a complete idiot and help those on here see that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

  37. Russell July 3, 2008 at 1:36 pm #

    Smiley, scroll up and look at my post from 7/1/08 at 11:55am. I state right there for everyone to see that Wes Clark endorsed Jonny. I have no idea how many times you think I need to post it, but there it is. I did mention it.

    I have no idea why you’re asking that question about serving in Congress without pay. BP seemed to have a problem with taxpayers paying a salary to a millionaire heir, namely Chris Lee. I merely commented on that and asked why his concern doesn’t apply to any others in Congress that fit that bill. I have no idea where you’re getting my qualifications for being rich from.

    I never said they were all rich. You really need to stop putting words in my mouth. I merely said none of them were poor which is even a step lower than your acknowledgement of prominence.

    These are not questions of semantics or nit picking. You’re saying I said things I didn’t say or I didn’t say things I did say. You have some serious problems.

  38. Jackson Smiles July 7, 2008 at 10:49 am #

    Russell,

    You were refuting my statement, in debating 101 you were saying my statement was wrong, thus the opposite must be true. You also mentioned they were well off (i didn’t waste my time going back to get your exact words).

    I’m getting as “nit picky” as you are. You say “as someone who endorses Johnny” – You didn’t seem to mention the endorsement until your incorrect statement made earlier in the day was first attacked. You also tried to twist words implying that if Clark says a war record only doesn’t qualify you for congress, then those with war records (ie: Powers) must not be qualified for Congress.

    Once again you prove yourself as the poster child for Pro-Choice abortion rights.

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