Snow in Buffalo

23 Dec

Is there really an excuse for the city not to have laid a plow down on every single road within its limits by midday yesterday? It’s not like snow is a rarity here.

35 Responses to “Snow in Buffalo”

  1. Nick December 23, 2008 at 7:38 am #

    Come down Ripley Place, where our cars are STILL getting stuck in the snow. But that’s mostly thanks to no trucks coming down from the first storm last week. And now with everyone spinning their tires, there’s a nice layer of ice under the feet of snow in the middle of the road.

    Is it really that hard?

  2. Timothy Domst December 23, 2008 at 7:40 am #

    Maybe overtime costs will break the budget.

  3. mike December 23, 2008 at 8:07 am #

    I thought the blow off your steam from the penny saver was bad, but come on that street is passable. What do you want, the mayor to come over and brush off your car too? Put down the remote, get off your ass, buy a pair of boots and help yourself. Is everyone around here so fat and lazy that all they can do is complain?

  4. Nick December 23, 2008 at 8:19 am #

    Passable? Only if my neighbors and I help you get past the end of the street. And thats if you can get past what is at the beginning of it.

    And I just got back from Iraq last month, so if you’d like to stop by, I need to knock some of the sand out of my boots.

  5. BfloHighRise December 23, 2008 at 8:37 am #

    The lower part of N. Pearl Street is horrible too! It has only been plowed on once (Saturday Morning) since all this snow fell late last week. Majority of the residents parked on the same side of the street just so that the other can be cleared. Result: Nothing! My back is F’in killing me!!!

  6. Nick December 23, 2008 at 8:48 am #

    Ok, now that I read that I don’t like what I said (edit feature?).

    My point (and everyone’s is I’m sure) is that it’s totally unacceptable for some of these roads to not be cleared yet. The report said that some 93% of the roads in the city were clear as of yesterday morning (I’m shooting in the dark on that number, but I think I read it correctly). So 24 hours have passed since I read that report, and my street is still covered. Covered so bad that the parking ticket police didn’t even bother to come down our street yesterday to ticket cars that were parked on the wrong side of the road, which might compound the problem of no plows.

    But to say anyone is fat or lazy in a situation like this is careless. I’ve spent more time pushing cars and shoveling than sleeping the last 3 days. Luckily, I have some great neighbors that I’ve had the pleasure of meeting for the first time in some cases.

    Our street (all probably 20-30 some odd houses) has no less than 3 houses on the market, along with probably 3 or 4 rental units that are empty. How does anyone expect to sell these houses or find tenants when the city can’t clear the street a week after a storm?

    Oh, and its garbage day tomorrow. I might wake up early and make some popcorn and watch that one. If a plow doesn’t make it down here, I’d say its 50/50 a garbage truck does.

  7. AnswerLady December 23, 2008 at 9:14 am #

    Hey Pundit – thanks for the plug. The plows finally got here last night. We always worry about ambulances and fire trucks making it down the streets until they do. I haven’t seen things this bad since Jimmy “six pack” days.

  8. hank December 23, 2008 at 9:19 am #

    @Mike–Put down the remote, get off your ass, buy a pair of boots and help yourself. Is everyone around here so fat and lazy that all they can do is complain?

    Great Jimmy Griffin Imitation there, mike—You runnin’ for mayor next time?

    You’re getting what you pay your property taxes for—NOT.
    Nobody in the city administration gives a fuck, either—because they know you dumbasses will vote them right back into office whether they do anything or not.

    And Now,Byron Brown will conduct ANOTHER rendition of Clusterfuck in E Minus. And will continue to do so until the next election, when you’ll vote his vacuum headed ass back into office.

    Nick—Welcome home, brother—and thank you for your service and sacrifices for our country…Pay no attention to mike—he’s one of those biological anomalies–a vagina with teeth, tounge and ears.

  9. Nick December 23, 2008 at 9:50 am #

    hank – Thanks for the welcome home. It’s good to be back.

    Oh, and there was a bulldozer just going down my street. Hopefully a salt truck makes it down so we’re not just skating on a sheet of ice now.

  10. Dan December 23, 2008 at 9:57 am #

    A perfect Jimmy Griffin imitation would be if the streets in South Buffalo were cleared curb-to-curb down to the pavement, Amherst-style, while travel in the rest of the city was impossible without a snowplow.

    When I was a youngin’ during the Makowski and early Griffin years, snowplows went up and down every city street. However, they did so with their plow blades UP. Why? Supposedly, it was to save money by avoiding wear and tear on the plows.

  11. STEEL December 23, 2008 at 10:14 am #

    Massive disinvestment over the last 50 years has left vast swaths of the city with empty and decaying properties. The city’s tax base has plunged while it has been left with a largely impoverished population. But hey, The city should be able to plow its streets just as good as any wealthy suburb flush with cash.

  12. buffalomom December 23, 2008 at 10:15 am #

    Oh come on. I think we count on some being snowed in here. At least I do. It’s a fond childhood memory. No work. No school. Isn’t that sort of part of the Buffalo mystique? Helping shovel each other out? Telling stories about when and where you were stuck?

    I mean, as a taxpayer, I agree. Especially in terms of ambulance and other emergency services. Yes. 100% yes.

    But on some completely selfish level, we all like to be snowed so we CAN’T do anything.

  13. indabuff December 23, 2008 at 10:22 am #

    So in less than 24 hours after a major snow event, the streets were clear in most of Buffalo…doesn’t sound like fail to me…sounds like a pretty good job.

    I had no problems in B-F yesterday driving around on the sides…they were plowed.

    When we have major snowstorms in succession like we did here over the weekend, ’tis the nature of the beast.

  14. LC Scotty December 23, 2008 at 10:23 am #

    Weyand (South Buffalo side street almost to W. Seneca) finally saw a plow at around 3:30 pm yesterday.

    On a related note, the 700 bucks I spent on a snow blower was probably the best 700 I ever spent.

  15. Nick December 23, 2008 at 10:29 am #

    Sure, it might be different if everyone was snowed in. But there was praise for 93% of the streets in the city taken care of by yesterday morning, yet there was nothing done on most streets until later that evening or this morning.

    And yes, being snowed in is fun. If there’s nothing to do. But its the holiday season and my brother has missed two flights in so many days thanks to being stuck trying to get down the street. I’d be more than happy to have nothing to do for a few days in the middle of February, but not 2 days before Christmas.

    But I suppose this is what we get for electing who we elect. It really is a shame that we can’t have a real administration in City Hall. In my 26 years (probably 10 of which I cared), we haven’t had anyone who has made a difference except in their own respective neighborhoods. Hopefully someone can rise from the ashes in the next few years.

  16. mike December 23, 2008 at 11:12 am #

    hank why would you be commenting on a post about snow plowing? Just because someone with sand in their boot posted you had to chime in with your brother bullshit. Hank you pealed potatoes under the water line of an old rust bucket, thats a far cry from a real war zone. Hell they contract that shit out to mcdonld’s now, so you might as well walk into the micky d’s and call them brother too!!

  17. frieda December 23, 2008 at 11:18 am #

    Maybe Buffalo should get Lackawanna to plow some of their streets. They seem to be doing a pretty good job.

  18. Nick December 23, 2008 at 11:22 am #

    Mike, Mike, Mike…. you’re obviously mistaken or someone let you out of your playpen and left the computer unattended. You, along with most civilians, have absolutely no idea about anything when it comes to the war or any wars previous, so I’d invite you to keep your liberal bullshit to yourself. Either that or sign up and figure it out on your own.

  19. Ward December 23, 2008 at 11:52 am #

    You go, Nick!
    But this site calmed down a lot on 5 Nov. Lots more spittle on the page before that. (You know–Karl Rove is Bristol Palin’s baby-daddy, etc.)

  20. August West December 23, 2008 at 11:54 am #

    Let’s give Steve Stepniak (Buffalo’s DPW Commissioner) some love on this thread. Let’s face it, Buffalo’s a big town with alot of streets. Many times, abandoned cars impede the ability of the crew to get down a particular street.

  21. mike December 23, 2008 at 12:18 pm #

    hank served during peace time, but he did say they had some great snowball fights, is this the war you are talking about nick?

  22. JR December 23, 2008 at 12:23 pm #

    What I don’t get is 2 days ago I crossed the border of Bflo and Kenmore and was rewarded w streets clear to the pavement while I spent 2 hours getting our cars out of the driveway and down the side streets in Buffalo. Drove the same route yesterday and again today. Same thing, streets clear down to the pavement in Kenmore. I realize Kenore does not have the parking issues that Bflo does but come on.

  23. Nick December 23, 2008 at 12:37 pm #

    Well then you’d have to reference that for me, but as far as I know, anyone who served regardless if it was during GWoT or peacetime should be treated with a little more respect by a civilian such as yourself who has probably done little to none for his country.

    Except maybe shovel his sidewalk.

    Which is another thing, if we as citizens are required to clear a path for pedestrians, shouldn’t we have the same courtesy on our roads?

  24. STEEL December 23, 2008 at 12:47 pm #

    JR Kenmore does not have the same burden of poverty and disinvestment either.

  25. mike December 23, 2008 at 1:46 pm #

    show respect for someone offered a choice of jail or the army? Read your history pal even MacArthur turned the guns on the veteran’s of the Bonus Army, no one likes a cry baby, black water is hiring.

  26. Russell December 23, 2008 at 2:45 pm #

    My street finally saw a plow early yesterday evening, but I would certainly not call it clear by any stretch. In fact, it seemed like more cars got stuck after the plows came than before–at least we pushed many more cars after they passed through. The snow is probably about 6 to 8 inches deep on the road still today. Go one mile or so east into Amherst and the residential streets are down to the pavement. Go a half mile north into Kenmore and they’re also down to pavement.

  27. Becky December 23, 2008 at 7:14 pm #

    Poverty and disinvestment have absolutely nothing to do with ability to plow a street. Previously if there was an abandoned car the plows went around it and snowed it in (see photo in News today). Now they give a half-assed swipe down the middle of one way streets and wander off.

    Still no where to park due to lack of plowing, and the day to switch over to the other side (daytime hours only) is fast approaching.

    It hasn’t been this bad in many years.

    By the way Nick, I used to live on Ripley – one big snow drift, isn’t it?

  28. Dan December 23, 2008 at 8:42 pm #

    > The city should be able to plow its streets just as good as any wealthy suburb flush with cash.

    A city block may be lined with 50 or more houses on 35 foot lots, compared to the 10 to 20 houses on 60 to 120 foot suburban lots. Outside of the East Side urban prairie, a city residential block will have far more tax-generating parcels than a suburban block.

    Ask an old-timer how plowing was back in the good ‘ol days. They might cry when they remember Deco and Sattlers, but even back then plowing in the city was rotten. When I was a kid in the 1970s, plowing in the city was notoriously bad (in South Buffalo, it was better, but not much), while in equally dense parts of Kenmore and Cheektowaga, streets got cleared down to the curb. Even the few suburban-like streets inside the city limits with almost no cars parked on the street were badly plowed; streets like Burke and Treehaven turned from off-road snowmobile trails to real roads when they crossed the Cheektowaga town line.

    Plowing in Buffalo was shitty in the past, it’s shitty now, and it’ll be shitty 20 years from now.

  29. Dan December 23, 2008 at 8:56 pm #

    100 feet of street in Amherst
    Fronted by 2 single family houses
    $5,000-$8,000 property tax/house
    $10,000-$16,000 tax revenue total/100′

    100 feet of street in North Buffalo
    Fronted by 5 modest two-flats
    $3,000-$3,000 property tax/house
    $15,000-$20,000 tax revenue total/100′

    100 feet of street in Allentown
    Fronted by 6-8 quaint historic houses
    $4,000-$5,000 property tax/quaint historic house
    $24,000-$40,000 tax revenue total/100′

    100 feet of street in Kensington
    Fronted by 6 bungalows
    $1,000-$1,500 property tax/absentee landlord … I mean “house”
    $6,000-$9,000 tax revenue total/100′

  30. mike hudson December 23, 2008 at 9:06 pm #

    hey nick, you don’t get the drill on little mikey. his mom lets him use the computer when she’s at work. he stays home a lot because the other third graders stick his head in the toilet.

  31. mike December 23, 2008 at 10:04 pm #

    the orginal cry baby chimes in, hey hudson running out of ink? maybe vince can lend you money from his sweet new job.

  32. Eisenbart December 23, 2008 at 10:41 pm #

    I believe that the city has about 11 or 12 plowing districts. I can only assume that the quality of the service in plowing is a direct result of taxes received in a certain district.

    People like to complain. They complain if they get a ticket for parking on the wrong side of the street and then turn around on that same breath and complain that their roads aren’t plowed because people are parked on the wrong side of the street. Then they complain how damaged the streets are when it is plowed to the pavement.

    There are more residents in the suburbs that pay taxes per the amount of street there is. They have driveways, they have shoulders with no curbs, they have better kept roads that aren’t as easily damaged when they plow to the pavement, and they keep their own damn sidewalks shoveled. As in they don’t have the government come and plow them, they go out and shovel them themselves for the most part.

    Becky, while I respect your opinion I have to disagree. Money has everything to do with how plowing is budgeted into the budget. When a lot of people are not paying taxes while leeching off the system at the same time it’s just a world of hurt for everyone. It’s not just plowing either, everything suffers.

    As much as I like to complain about plowing it really could and should be a lot worse considering. They’ve done a decent job.

  33. RaChaCha December 24, 2008 at 10:59 am #

    Hey Nick, I enjoyed your comment and don’t think any of it was out of line. Thank you for your service, and I’m glad you made it back in time for the holidays – hopefully to stay–?

  34. Greg December 24, 2008 at 3:48 pm #

    Didn’t I recently read that the city had a surplus?

  35. dime4abeer December 24, 2008 at 3:52 pm #

    The streets of Niagara Falls were in terrible shape also. Gotta’ feel for those storeowners who want folks to come out. Feel for the folks too.

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