Representative Joe Wilson (R-SC)

9 Sep

What a class act.  Even John McCain called on him to apologize for his “inappropriate” outburst during Obama’s speech.


I don’t recall anyone in Congress ever treating any other President with quite so much contempt. If we’re going to have President’s Questions like they do in Canada or the UK, then let’s do just that.  I’d be very much in favor of that.  Then the backbenchers from South Carolina can heckle all they want.

25 Responses to “Representative Joe Wilson (R-SC)”

  1. BrianS September 9, 2009 at 11:24 pm #

    Can you blame Wilson for calling Obama a liar though?

    Wilson has no doubt been spreading the lie about illegals being covered for quite some time, and Obama calling out the scum who do that put Wilson in a very uncomfortable position: The way he probably sees it, he among many others was just called a liar in front of his entire constituency, not to mention the rest of the nation. So he did what any cornered rat would do, he lashed out in rage—just as the far right has been doing ever since the black man with liberal ideas had the nerve to occupy the oval office.

    Wilson will certainly be heralded by the far right as a real champion of the people, instead of the disgusting lying pig that he obviously is.

  2. KPS September 10, 2009 at 12:12 am #

    I wonder if he had one of those Obama-Hitler pictures in his pocket

  3. The Humanist September 10, 2009 at 12:25 am #

    So much for the “respect for the office” blather that anyone on the left had to endure from 11/8/00 through 1/19/09.

    Can we please end the “bipartisan” charade and just ignore the charlatans and clowns from a dying, decaying party that has seen its base dwindle to a Southern focus with nutjobs, racists and paranoid schizos representing?

  4. OAP September 10, 2009 at 2:24 am #

    Reprehensible (R-SC) Joe Wilson must have thought he was giving the Repuglican response. Someone forgot to tell him it was AFTER the President finished his address, not during. What an idiot. Maybe he should resign as well as his philandering Governor.

  5. Ward September 10, 2009 at 10:22 am #

    For the second time in two days, BP advocates a Prime Minister question period, a la the House of Commons.

    From watching a few of those on BBCA it appears that shouting “You lie!” would be considered tame in that arena. Here, however, in keeping with the meme that objectors to Obamacare are merely dangerous obstructionists, one dare not call a (oops, Humanist–almost engaged in ham-handed racism again) …

    BTW–Obama, Pelosi and Reid ended the “bipartisan charade” months ago. See how well they did for it in the polls.

    • Alan Bedenko September 10, 2009 at 10:25 am #

      I would have especially loved a PM Questions during Bush’s terms in office. That would have made for some phenomenal television.

  6. Jeremy Beck September 10, 2009 at 11:08 am #

    Allow me to represh your memory:

  7. Jeremy Beck September 10, 2009 at 11:10 am #

    For the record, I do not condone the lack of civility displayed by both parties. Nor do I accept the “well he did it first” line of defense as justification for ungentlemanly behavior.

    • Alan Bedenko September 10, 2009 at 11:36 am #

      I didn’t hear which Democratic congressperson yelled out, “you liar” at Bush.

  8. The Humanist September 10, 2009 at 12:39 pm #

    @ Ward – I’m not the one who made a racist comment in another post. You are…KTHXBAI

  9. Jeremy Beck September 10, 2009 at 2:10 pm #

    So “booing” is ok, but “liar” is out of bounds? Please. Either you believe that civil (and civic)discoure requires listening to your opponent and rebutting at the appropriate time or you do not. It is a binary proposition. As to the content of the rebuttal, I am fairly certain that the First Amendment has yet to be repealed, even in reference to the Dear Leader. Would that our first instinct was to assume the good will of those with opposing views, but I am afraid that the last sixteen years of rancor between the parties has extinguished that impulse.

    • Alan Bedenko September 10, 2009 at 2:36 pm #

      So “booing” is ok, but “liar” is out of bounds?


  10. Jeremy Beck September 10, 2009 at 2:58 pm #

    Did the Messiah not say “The best example is the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Such a charge would be laughable if it weren’t so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.” last night? By extension, anyone making such a claim would be a liar, no? By your own standards, Barry is out of bounds.

    • Alan Bedenko September 10, 2009 at 3:06 pm #

      I didn’t hear Jesus speak yesterday. Mostly because I’m not schizophrenic and don’t hear phantom voices.

      But “Barry”, as you call him, happened to have the floor yesterday at the time that Congressman Wilson so rudely and discourteously shouted “you lie” or “liar” at the President. That’s violative of the code of decorum for House members, and that’s why his own party leadership demanded that he promptly apologize for his outburst, which he dutifully and respectfully did.

      Calling a lie a lie is not what’s wrong here. Calling the President a liar while he’s in the middle of giving a speech to a duly assembled joint session of congress and talking out of turn is. When you further couple that with the fact that illegal aliens are forbidden from these programs in the text of the bill itself, and under federal law elsewhere, then it was Obama who was telling the truth whilst Congressman Wilson was the liar.

      BTW, did you notice that Wilson may have just yelled himself out of office? Yeah. Wilson’s Democratic opponent raised $350k in the last 24 hours, surpassing Wilson’s own $200k+ cash on hand.

  11. Jeremy Beck September 10, 2009 at 3:34 pm #

    Glad to know you are not schizo, but I do detect a bit of cognitive dissonance in your responses. Let me get this straight: It is not ok to breach decorum by calling the President a liar when he has the floor, but it is ok to breach decorum by booing when he has the floor? C’mon. You are smarter and more reasonable than that. Let’s agree that breaching decorum is not civil, and therefore not to be tolerated. As far as Mr. Wilson goes, how about a wager? Beverage of choice to be provded by me if he loses and you if he wins his next election.

  12. Rob M. September 10, 2009 at 4:38 pm #

    The Truth Hurts doesn’t it ?? Too bad Congressman Wilson had to apologize. It least someone had the nerve to say that the Emporer was naked. How can we trust anyone who has lied and outright disavowed anyone who is an obstacle to his version of the “Truth” The Walkin closet is bare and the Emporer is walking around as though he is wearing his latest Armani Suit.

  13. The Humanist September 10, 2009 at 4:41 pm #

    @ Jeremy – Have you never watched a President address both houses of Congress before? Booing is tradition….yelling that the President is a liar is not.

  14. Jeremy Beck September 10, 2009 at 5:08 pm #

    @Humanist- ahhh, Tradition. Wondered when that would come up. Nothing warms my conservative heart more than the thought of tradition. How about this: let’s resurrect the tradition of Representatives beating Senators with canes. I guarantee the field for Congressional elections would instantly be much more crowded. Better yet, let’s bring back dueling. Pistols at dawn, 20 paces and the whole healthcare issue is decided. Once again, either you believe in civil discourse, or not. Even if you do, whining when you get hit tit-for-tat does nothing to further the cause. Arguing about acceptable degrees of incivility is pointless. Take the high road and deplore bad behavior regardless of the originator’s party, or admit that what really offends you is not the action but that your guy was on the receiving end.

  15. The Humanist September 10, 2009 at 5:57 pm #

    @ Jeremy – Reagan was booed, Bush I was booed, Clinton was booed, Bush II was booed….stop acting so obtuse

    I’m able to make the distinction between the loyal opposition voicing disapproval of something the President says in his address vs. acting like a jackass in front of a national television audience and calling the Chief Executive of this country a liar. That virtually every one of Rep. Wilson’s colleagues on the GOP side (notably the leadership) condemned his asshattery immediately and demanded he apologize ASAP is quite telling.

    So….as a conservative, do you take your direction on civil discourse in politics from Dick “Go Fuck Yourself” Cheney, Pat “Leave Cuddly Uncle Adolf Alone, But That Latina Is A Racist” Buchanan, or Sarah “He’s Not One Of Us, Wink-Wink” Palin?

  16. Ward September 10, 2009 at 7:13 pm #

    My life is over. I’ve been deemed a racist by The Humanist.
    How to end it all? Ah, yes–maybe suicide by cop. Perhaps I can try to charge through Byron Brown’s ten-man BPD guard patrol, yelling “You lied!!!!”

  17. Jeremy Beck September 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm #

    @Human- I will assume you missed my second post. However, should it prove to be too obtuse for you, allow me to say that no, I do not take civility cues from those you mention. Nor do I take them from Hillary, Rahm, Van Jones or even LBJ- none of whom are noted for their congeniality.

  18. steve September 11, 2009 at 12:01 pm #

    whats great about this is no one is talking about the speech and healthcare reform and the attention is focused on how to act properly when the President speaks. Seems like a marvelous tactic by the Republicans to me. The country should get back to the healthcare debate and not worry who said what.

    Its time the Democratic party wakes up and realizes they are the truly broken party with the Blue Dogs wielding an unusual amount of power and breaking this health care debate into three tracks. Healthcare doesn’t pass because of the Democratic fissure rather than Republican pressure and that’s just fine because it’ll come back to bite them in the ass in 2010 and 2012.

  19. shim September 11, 2009 at 12:11 pm #

    Wilson acted “stupidly”.. Why doesn’t Obama just call it a “teaching moment” for America and invite him to the White House for a few beers?

  20. Barbara Nicholas September 13, 2009 at 11:46 am #

    To the individual who said he/she does not remember anyone in Congress treating a president with so much contempt, I’d like to jog your memory a TAD!! I vividly remember seeing on camera “Hell Cat Hillary” making faces and rolling her eyes during President Bush’s first state of the union address. Talk about contempt!! That is all that went on when President Bush was president!!!! But thank GOD he was & still is the same wonderful MAN and continues to ignore their stupidity!! Just who are you people that seen to think this NOBAMA is presidential?? I beg to differ!! I expect two things to happen if NoBama gets “sick” his way, the first is him getting his way, the 2nd, the country will totally split! You can have this NUT. I am in the south and thank GOD we will be able to succeed from this sick and lost country thanks to that IDIOT, Nobama. Then, you liberals can pay his taxes and continue to pay Pelosi’s plane rides courtesy of we tax payers to and California every week!! PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH was 100% right, “the American people cannot afford the American Government. The reeeeeeel reform needs to start at the TOP as we are over taxed!!! You pay for it, I do not plan to.

  21. The Humanist September 15, 2009 at 4:48 pm #

    @ Barbara Nicholas:

    1) Making faces and rolling eyes is a tad rude, but it is not even in the same ballpark as calling the POTUS a liar on House floor. False equivalence.

    2) If you’re going to complain about people treating the President with contempt and rudeness, you’re probably hurting your point by treating the current President with contempt and rudeness. Just sayin…

    3) “continue to pay Pelosi’s plane rides courtesy of we tax payers to and (from) California” – how else to you propose Pelosi meet with her constituents…..move California to D.C.?

    4) Bush was only partially right…..the American people could not afford the Bush Administration and thankfully voted Obama in before the Bush-McCain-Palin-Whackadoodle Republicans could finish bankrupting the nation.

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