Coup Plotters

29 Sep

Ever wonder why there’s no English word for junta or coup d’etat or putsch?

Because Anglophone countries have a very sparse history of overthrowing their legitimate governments. (The coup in the New York State Senate earlier this year doesn’t really count – that was a parliamentary switch of the majority, and the word coup isn’t all that accurate – the move was legal.)

That hasn’t stopped the Obamaphobes from suggesting that a military coup would be the best way to solve the – no joke – “Obama problem”.

I remember when it was treason to disagree that we should invade Iraq. I believe that, with talk of a coup, we have reached peak wingnut.

29 Responses to “Coup Plotters”

  1. pirate's code September 29, 2009 at 8:56 pm #

    @ bp — “…we have reached peak wingnut.”

    I’ll betcha a donut we haven’t. So long as there is an appetite for wingnuttery (by both the true believers and those who seem obsessed with the latest batch of wingnuttery), someone will try to out wing (out nut?) the last kook.

    I don’t spend a lot of time examining the ravings of either lunatic fringe because, well, it’s way out there on the fringe and, in the end, it almost always ends up being irrelevant to my daily life. I do like the Fighting Keyboardists logo, though. Perhaps a version could find it’s way to a WNYMedia t-shirt?

  2. Mike Walsh September 29, 2009 at 9:08 pm #

    NewsMax was a prime source of wingnuts when Clinton was in office. Surely you remember the venom spewed at Bill back then. JFK had the same problem with the extreme right. Go back to FDR and William Randolph Hearst(among many others). This is nothing new.

  3. mike hudson September 29, 2009 at 9:11 pm #

    watchout pundit, the plotters may have their chance when he jets off to denmark to pay back a political favor to mayor daly and plead chicago’s case to host the olympics.

    meanwhile, we’ll wait with baited breath for him to do something about afghanistan, iraq, guantanamo bay, the economy and what was known during the runup to last year’s election as the health care “crisis.”

  4. The Humanist September 29, 2009 at 10:13 pm #

    @ Mike Hudson – you would do well to pick up a newspaper once in a while (not the piece of shit you produce) instead of whining on here constantly “What has Obama done for us?!!”

  5. Mike Walsh September 29, 2009 at 10:50 pm #

    @The Humanist:

    ““What has Obama done for us?!!””

  6. BrianS September 29, 2009 at 11:27 pm #

    The ignorant loons on the right are so dumb, they cannot recognize what hypocrites they are.

    Could you imagine what they would have said had a “liberal” suggested the same scenario? The idea of a military intervention of the Bush administration? It’s interesting that a group so afraid of a military dictatorship, would be apparently fantasizing about one if the President is a dreaded liberal! Republicans: The party of DUMB.

  7. The Humanist September 29, 2009 at 11:29 pm #

    @ Mike Walsh – like I told Hudson, pick up a newspaper.

  8. Mike Walsh September 30, 2009 at 12:10 am #

    @ The Humanist:

    The newspaper tells me we’re still in Iraq and Afghanistan, the economy is in the tank, record unemployment and the financiers who stole from everybody are making a tidy profit off our bailout money. What else has he done? Did I miss something?

  9. Jon Splett September 30, 2009 at 12:27 am #

    You mean the newspaper reporting on that failed public option?

  10. ethan September 30, 2009 at 1:30 am #

    While I agree with the point more or less, the reason English borrowed those words is vastly more complex than your odd folk etymology suggests. English borrows world of all sorts with ease. Did English borrow “pundit” because of an historical absence of opinion-makers in “anglophone” counteries? I think not.

  11. Joe Genco September 30, 2009 at 7:20 am #

    @ Humanist, Walsh & Brians: Hudson may be an ass, but in this instance, he’s right. What paper can I read that will report a significant Obama accomplishment. All I see so far is he can’t “fix” health care, Afghanistan is headed in the wrong direction and Ghadaffi (sp) likes him.

  12. Don September 30, 2009 at 8:06 am #

    Even if Obama hasn’t accpmplished anything, he makes me feel better about that lack of accomplishment.

  13. mike hudson September 30, 2009 at 8:15 am #

    humorist…as you know, i read the new york times, the buffalo news, the london daily mail, the guardian and peruse the top aggregator sites — not daily koz or newsmax — each and every day. thus far, i haven’t come across the articles you’re referring to. could you please cite three legit newspaper articles concerning accomplishments of the obama administration that have anything whatsoever to do with the things he talked about when he was running for election.

    I’m serious, i don’t think it can be done, and i think you’re a goddamn liar as well as being a twit.

    • Alan Bedenko September 30, 2009 at 8:46 am #

      This whole “Obama’s accomplishments” discussion is a non-sequitur and I have no idea what it has to do with the original post, which is that some assfuck on Newsmax has taken sedition to a whole new level in this country by actually opening his mouth and suggesting that a military coup might be a great “solution” to the “Obama problem”. No, seriously – an American person in this country said something like that with a straight face, Newsmax reported it, and I have no doubt that a solid third of Republicans think that would be a dandy idea because they’re so butthurt that they’re out of power and no longer able to “rah rah” to neoconservative tough talking bullshit.

      With that being said, if you are really interested in tracking Obama’s carrying out of specific campaign promises, it would be a good idea to follow the St Petersburg Times’ PolitiFact “Obameter”, which specifically tracks Obama’s campaign pledges and where he’s at with them. So far, he’s carried out 44 according to that site, which means that one could probably find all 44 accomplishments and find “three legit newspaper articles” concerning all of them.

      Every comment after this one that has nothing whatsoever to do with this post will be deleted summarily. I will put up an open thread for everyone to continue hurling invective back and forth.

  14. Byron September 30, 2009 at 9:15 am #

    A “a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution” – those words actually appear in the column. As The Humanist said in another thread, we’re through the looking glass.

    This clown will probably appear on CNN and “liberal” MSNBC soon; Taitz’s 15 minutes appear to be up.

  15. mike hudson September 30, 2009 at 10:37 am #

    calls for overthrowing bush were very common in the years 2001-2007. try google. kieth olbermann alluded to it, michael moore talked about it openly.

    • Alan Bedenko September 30, 2009 at 10:43 am #

      OK. I just did. I used the terms bush overthrow coup.

      Three pages in I got this from Daniel Larison. quoting Thomas Sowell.
      Four pages in, I got this from Counterpunch.

      The rest dealt with Bush’s grandfather planning a coup against FDR and reaction to the Newsmax mouthshit suggesting that the “solution” to the “Obama problem” would be a coup.

  16. Byron September 30, 2009 at 10:54 am #

    No surprise, but the Reform-NYS Freekers love NewsMax.

  17. Byron September 30, 2009 at 11:07 am #

    Does anyone else think that Keith Olbermann advocated a military coup against Bush? Or even Michael Moore? I mean, Google doesn’t, but does anyone here?

  18. Byron September 30, 2009 at 11:13 am #

    Oh, and according to TPM NewsMax has now taken the column off its site.

    • Alan Bedenko September 30, 2009 at 11:32 am #

      Well, let’s don’t forget that as far back as July, a local cretin of some sort or another was saying things just as reprehensible.

      At around 9:52, Bauerle suggested that a new civil war was in order, advocated for secession, and suggested that liberals want to put people like him and Jim Ostrowski in concentration camps.

      Around 11:14, Bauerle advocated for an armed, military coup of the United States government, and wondered whether the military would “side with the people” to, I suppose, wipe out the anti-American liberals.

      I’m not kidding about any of this.

      I need to call those advertisers again.

  19. The Humanist September 30, 2009 at 12:29 pm #

    A partial list of the accomplishments of the 8-month old Obama administration:

    * Included funding for “green” jobs in the stimulus bill

    * Dedicated more than $60 billion for clean energy

    * Allocated $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries systems (for automobiles)

    * Funded Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grant, which gives $2.8 billion to cities

    * Put over 2 million acres of wilderness, thousands of miles of river and a host of national trails and parks under federal protection, the largest conservation effort in 15 years

    * Funding a $475 million initiative to restore and clean the Great Lakes

    * Overturned the federal funding ban for stem cell research

    * Added staff to the FDA and brought back emphasis on science

    * <a href="http://www.startribune.com/politics/62836107.html"Allocated over $5 billion to the National Institutes of Health, whose budget Bush let stagnate

    * Eliminated funding for abstinence-only education

    *
    Signed an executive order repealing the “Mexico City policy” or “global gag rule” that withheld U.S. funds from organizations that discuss or provide family planning services abroad

    * Announced US would resume contributions to the UN population fund for family planning and more than double the previous contribution made in 2001

    * Appropriated $19 billion in the stimulus package to help implement an electronic medical record system

    * Enacted Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization, providing healthcare to 11 million children

    * Established 65% COBRA subsidy for 7 million unemployed Americans

    * Allocated $1 billion for prevention and wellness programs

    * Provided $87 billion to states to bolster their Medicaid programs during the downturn

    * Increased funding for urban HIV/AIDS Prevention and Awareness

    *Department of Transportation approved 2,500 highway projects

    * Gave Department of Justice $2 billion for Byrne Grants, which funds anti-gang and anti-gun task forces (cut during Bush years)

    * Allocated $5 billion for early learning programs, including Head Start, Early Head Start, child care, and programs for children with special needs

    * Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure (CARD) Act to protect Americans from unfair and deceptive credit card practices

    * Enacted the Making Homes Affordable Program

    * Appointed first Hispanic/third female justice to the Supreme Court

    * Signed an executive order banning torture and requiring interrogations to conform to Army Field Manual Standards and Geneva Conventions

    * Largest increase for veterans funding in 30 years

    * Revoked Bush administration executive order on regulatory review that enabled political appointees at the White House’s OMB to override agencies’ rulemaking, undermining everything from worker safety to environmental protection

    *Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, guaranteeing the right to sue for wage discrimination based on gender, race, disability, etc.

    * Extended unemployment benefits for struggling Americans

    * Cut taxes for 95% of all working families

    * Provided over $500 million in funding for vocational rehabilitation services to help with job training, education and placement

    * Tax credit for first-time home buyers

    * Obama Justice Department names special prosecutor to head criminal probe into CIA interrogations during the Bush Administration

    The Obama adminstration deserves a lot of criticism for a wide range of failings – the handling of the bank bailouts, the Goldman Sachs cronyism in leadership positions at the Fed and the Treasury Dept, the abandonment of repealing DADT and DOMA, the ridiculous kowtowing to Republicans on the stimulus bill (reducing its effectiveness) and, most recently, the outsourcing of healthcare reform legislation to Congress, where a few tone-deaf Democratic Senators have blocked a robust public option from consideration.

    However, to say the Obama Administration has accomplished nothing is ridiculous. The accomplishments I’ve listed above are right in line with the pledges he made during his campaign. I never expected him to reduce unemployment to 0%, withdraw completely from Iraq and Afghanistan, pass a single-payer health care reform bill or stop Iran’s nuclear development in his first 8 months.

  20. Stan P September 30, 2009 at 12:43 pm #

    EXTREME right wing racists should all move to one side of he country and we can have round 2 of the Civil War. We’ll kick their ass again

  21. The Humanist September 30, 2009 at 1:01 pm #

    And now we have this – a United States Representative from Arizona says Obama has no place in any station of government and is an enemy of humanity.

    At what point do we dare call it treason?

  22. Hank September 30, 2009 at 1:58 pm #

    Stan—the ranks of the US Armed forces contain a very small number of liberals. Those that are understand that pacifism is a luxury paid for by warriors. in most areas you probably couldn’t find enough liberals with the inclination and/or ability to fight a high school football team—and the kids would probably kick the shit out ot them. Watch out for those transvestite homosexuals though—no matter what they do to make themselves appear as women, get em pissed and the testosterone (can’t fool mother nature) kicks back in and they become men again.

  23. The Humanist September 30, 2009 at 2:21 pm #

    @ Hank – I will never tire of your need to share your extensive experience with transvestites.

    As for the alleged non-toughness of liberals, it’s a shame that we had such limp-wristed pantywaists in our armed forces, such as JFK ( Navy and Marine Corps Medal in WWII), George McGovern (Distinguished Flying Cross for heroism in WWII), John Glenn (6 Distinguished Flying Crosses in WWII and Korea), John Kerry (3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze and Silver Star in Vietnam), Wesley Clark (Silver Star in Vietnam, NATO Supreme Allied Commander) and recent Iraq War vets like Joe Sestak, Patrick Murphy, Tammy Duckworth, Jon Powers, et. al.

    Why do you hate the troops?

  24. Byron September 30, 2009 at 3:41 pm #

    Remember when Hank used to regularly post his gay sex fantasies here?

  25. Rogers October 1, 2009 at 12:03 am #

    Now even them commie pinko liberal fags are gettin in on the fun. Guess who just told a newspaper fellar “We’ll have a military dictatorship fairly soon, on the basis that nobody else can hold everything together”?

    Thet’s right! Thet fag Gore Vidal! http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article6854221.ece It’s in the middle of the thurteenth paragraph.

    P.S. Mr. Dit, why ain’t you zapped the comment made by thet Hummus fellar @ 12:29 as per yer stipulation @ 8:46 this AM?

  26. Hank October 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm #

    Admit Byron, you’re just Jealous of anyone with a pair of balls in their mouth.

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