The Republican Implosion in NY-23

27 Oct


Rather than rehash and reword what Andrew Sullivan writes here, how’s about I just link to it, k? And Little Green Footballs, too.  As a reminder, here’s the map of NY-23.

Back when I was a Republican, I was a fan of guys like Bill Weld.  Guys who preached lower taxes, less spending, but really didn’t want to get all up in people’s business over stuff like abortion and whether you’re gay or not.

Now, there is a specific and concentrated effort to purge those northeastern moderate Republicans from the party completely.  According to this, Dede Scozzafava is more conservative than Jim Tedisco, whom conservatives supported strongly in NY-20 earlier this year.  Newt Gingrich – as red-blooded a conservative Republican as anyone – is now shunned and vilified by the True Believers because he has the nerve to support Scozzafava’s campaign.

And think about this – the people up in the North Country had a relatively moderate Republican representative in John McHugh, and he had represented the people of northern New York since 1993.  Who are all these people coming in to the district from all sorts of parts of the country to tell upstate Republicans that Scozzafava, who is like most upstate Republicans, is a heretic?

Gingrich says:

“This idea that we’re suddenly going to establish litmus tests and all across the country we’re going to purge the party of anybody who doesn’t agree with us 100 percent; that guarantees Obama’s reelection, that guarantees Pelosi as Speaker-for-life,” he told Fox News last night.

Gingrich called Scozzafava a “liberal Republican” for her support of gay marriage and abortion rights. But he defended those positions as in-step with her district and her predecessor, former Rep. John McHugh (R-N.Y.), who was tapped to be President Barack Obama’s Army Secretary…

…“So I say to my many conservative friends who suddenly decided whether they’re from Minnesota, or Alaska, or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don’t think so,” he added.

Malkin replies that centrists should indeed be purged from the party.  As for Gingrich’s point about out-of-staters imposing their opinions on people campaigning, blogging, and activisting in Watertown?  Like this guy?  She cites…

…the New York Post.

The people along the Quebec border are probably more apt to listen to people from out of state than the New York fricking Post. In the end, the Democratic candidate Bill Owens is free to talk about real issues and stay above the fray.


11 Responses to “The Republican Implosion in NY-23”

  1. Chris Smith October 27, 2009 at 5:07 pm #

    Funny thing about the twitter guy you highlighted in the image, he was a HUGE supporter of Jim Tedisco in the special election, going so far as to call Tedisco a “statesman”. Now, a Republican who is to the right of Tedisco is a radical. Funny how this all works.

  2. Ike October 27, 2009 at 6:05 pm #

    I was under the impression that Scozzafava was pretty chummy with unions, even being on the WFP line…that’s not really the low tax, low regulation business friendly not being up in everyone’s business republican you seem to be trying to paint.

  3. Ward October 27, 2009 at 6:16 pm #

    If you Dems think Scozzafava remotely resembles Upstate Republicans, you’re permitting Andrew Sullivan and Kos to delude you.
    She is pro-labor, pro card-check, pro abortion on demand (to be included in the Public Option–not even Obama has come out in favor of that).
    She has declined to state that she will oppose a health care bill that would raise taxes. Her husband, a labor leader, has quietly offered her to the Dems as a reverse-Giambra turncoat candidate.
    Say and think what you will about the Republican residents of such places as Lowville–she simply does not have much in common with them. Unlike, of course, Bill Weld.
    Of course, evil outsider Republicans seem to have donated their ill-gotten lucre to Hoffman in large amounts recently ($100,000 in 48 hours), and he now leads all candidates in district polling. Scozzafava is third.

  4. Adam K. October 27, 2009 at 9:20 pm #

    2001: Republicans strike a deal where they can draw the NY Congressional lines in exchange for drawing 19 safe Dem seats.

    2002 1st elections with new lines are held. Republicans have drawn themselves 10 seats. Four may be considered very safe, 19, 23, 26, and 29, four are quite safe, 25, 3, 20, and 13, and two were safe as long as their occupant never retired, 27 and 24. 
    2002: 19D – 10R
    2004: 20D – 9R
    2006: 23D – 6R
    2008: 26D – 3R
    2009: 27D – 2R?

    Remember: The REPUBLICANS DREW THESE LINES!!! New York has the largest majority for either party in the US, with the Dems holding a 24 seat lead. California is second with a 14 seat lead for the Dems. (Texas leads for the Reps at +8)

    They lost 13, 19, 20 and 29 due to scandals (DWI, Mark Foley, spousal abuse and spousal abuse), and 24, 25 and 27 to retirements combined with a new attitude. Suddenly, 23 is all but gone, they can barely hang on to 26, and 3 is held by a guy who may leave to run for Senate. Peter King is the ONLY of the 10 Republicans who were in office on January 1, 2004 to still have his job today, a 90% attrition rate. 

    Things are looking bad in Republicanland

  5. Dan October 28, 2009 at 9:54 am #

    Things are looking bad in Republicanland

    Luckily for us things are going just great here in NY State with Democrats in control of both houses and the Gov, both Senate seats and most of the congressional seats.
    Sort of like our great city. Oh yeah, and our country. (Hopefully the racist, Barney Fife and the other Dems can tighten their grip on our county). And you are right – it is no business of those out of towners to tell upstate NYers who to vote for. They should listen to Newt Gingrich who is from…

  6. Hank October 28, 2009 at 1:49 pm #

    Dede is NO Republican. But let’s be honest, with 40% of Americans in the last Rasmussen saying that they’re Conservative, Calling yourself a Republican is like cussin’ yourself out.

    THERE ARE NO REPUBLICANS IN NYS—Just varying degrees of Democrat. And considering the mess that IS NYS, If I were a Democrat, I wouldn’t think is prudent to be crowing about the majority the party holds—just makes them look responsible for the shit pot you live in.

  7. Adam K. October 28, 2009 at 2:27 pm #

    Hank, How does the Washington representation make Democrats look responsible for Albany’s failures, which are done a completely different set of people?

  8. canisiusbringstheruckus October 28, 2009 at 3:40 pm #

    Don’t forget that the mess that we’re in was caused by the Pataki administration and years of the Republicans holding 2 out of the three branches of the executive/legislature.

  9. SoldierBoy October 28, 2009 at 4:43 pm #

    She is a heretic? What is that suppose to mean?

    Ok, Buffalo Pundit Let me figure this out.. — I’m here to help:

    For anyone to think that there is some sort of hidden underlying meaning that this race is drawing national attention here… YOUR RIGHT… Its is called access to control the loot later once you graduate as chairperson..

    No one gives a rat ass about parties any more. That includes me.. but at least I will never sell my soul.

    All these moochers like D’Amato and Gingrich have gotten involved and have their hands open. They are never satisfied with the taxpayers coffers they already steered to their friends in the past…

    Our politicians continue insult us.

  10. James October 28, 2009 at 10:52 pm #

    I’m a little confused why anyone thinks that the GOP is going to follow the far right and not continue to push towards the more popular middle; that has been what it has been doing for so long this is only a natural progression of conservatives, tea baggers, and libertarians that are escaping into different directions. I guess if you think that the tea baggers really are just sheepskin Republicans that would make you think that the GOP is going to lead the charge into fiscal conservancy. Let them have it; I say. The real fight will happen between Conservatives and Libertarians. That’s the one to watch for a future third or replacement party.

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