BNP Messaging FAIL

24 Nov


On one hand, we have the Buffalo Niagara Partnership telling Albany to “Unshackle Upstate” from the chains of big government, big spending, high taxes and incompetent government.  That if left to our own devices up here in Buffaloland, we’d fix our own problems, thank you very much!  So, Albany, keep your hands out of our god damned pockets and leave us free marketeers to ourselves!

Please ignore the cognitive dissonance behind the curtain!

Please ignore the cognitive dissonance behind the curtain!

And then, we have the Buffalo Niagara Partnership begging our state delegation to please, please, please fund the UB 2020 plan, the Niagara Falls Airport Expansion, and their other regional priorities with $450,000,000 in public funds.

In essence, the position of the BNP can be summed up as:

“Stop taxing us to death, you’re making it hard to do business in this state with all of your spending that does not directly benefit us and what we deem to to be the priorities.  Also, please make the money appear from thin air because as mentioned above, we hate taxes and government dependence and whatnot!”

Fucking hell, no wonder we can’t get shit done around here.  Our “private sector” leadership is just as rife with stupidity and graft as our public sector.

Less taxes, more public money for us please

Less taxes, more public money for us please

Also, I know there is nuance to the issue.  Also, I don’t care.

33 Responses to “BNP Messaging FAIL”

  1. Buffalopundit November 24, 2009 at 11:20 am #

    How many more taxes will we New Yorkers pay to appease the bowtie of terror?

    • wcp November 25, 2009 at 11:41 am #

      “bowtie of terror”- well put!

  2. Dan November 24, 2009 at 11:31 am #

    The fact is that everyone left in Western New York is a fucking bottom feeder. The Great Soviet State has made it that way. The idea that a person could work hard and be innovative to gain reward is probably illegal in New York. The state has become the supreme socialist hand out consisting of baby mamas .union goons, tax feeding civil parasites and illusionary private enterprise supporters. I love when the county executive says “we need to run government like big business”…which one? Enron, General Motors? AIG? Bethlehem Steel…remember them? The fact is to be in business in New York you have to attach yourself to the machine downstate. What made this state great was unfettered opportunity and the right to keep your earnings. What destroyed this same state is the Soviet modeled government. The socialist model has failed, long failed. Eventually they will run out of other peoples money to hand out for votes in the meantime we can all bask in the fruits of our punitive sinking ship, scrambling about like the rest of the bottom feeders that live here.

    • Colin November 24, 2009 at 12:41 pm #

      “Unfettered opportunity” would be a Dickensian nightmare. Laws against child labor, dumping poison directly into the environement and even enslaving people all represent “fetters” placed on someone’s opportunity. Either you don’t actually believe the shit that you write, or you’re psychotic.

      • Dan November 24, 2009 at 7:45 pm #

        Colin your a brainwashed meathead but don’t be alarmed its rampant in your generation.
        WNY has half the worlds Radium buried hear and there ..who put it there..your mama the government.
        Who puts poision in your drinking water and your food?…..your mama the government
        Re: Child labor
        The fact is kids working is completely natural….playing video games for hours is not.
        Now do kids belong in industry? no obviously …I dont think anyone belongs there.
        Industrialisation ruined the world. Kids working on a farm or a small shop is the education for the future, unlike the great soviet schools which teach nothing.

    • Alan Bedenko November 24, 2009 at 12:43 pm #

      What made this state great was unfettered opportunity and the right to keep your earnings.

      I thought it was the Erie Canal.

      • Dan November 24, 2009 at 7:47 pm #

        Buffalo was great until 1930 ..made strides until 1955 after that it was all over.

    • al l November 25, 2009 at 9:21 am #

      quick point of order – COMMUNISM failed. socialism is pretty much alive and well.

  3. answerlady November 24, 2009 at 12:17 pm #

    The projects our fine reps are advocating for are ridiculous. Its hard to find multipliers for various investments, but here’s as close as I could get (Bureau of Economic Analysis)

    $1 invested in manufacturing returns that dollar plus $1.43
    $1 invested in transportation/utilities returns that dollar plus $0.09
    $1 invested in education/heath returns that dollar plus $0.70
    $1 invested in banking returns that dollar plus $0.50

    The only worse way to spend public dollars than the Rudnick & Co UB2020 ed/health/biotech plan (endorsed by the entire community they would have you know) is banking. Oops, been there, done that.

    • Dan November 24, 2009 at 7:50 pm #

      Some time take a walk into the front door of the Hauptman Woodward Institute built with your tax dollars. Rare African paneling 5 stories high Italian stone and hidden above floors of unused labs.
      I am not a fan of Soviet architecture but I am not a fan of politicians building monuments to themselves either.

      • answerlady November 24, 2009 at 8:47 pm #

        I’ve been told the same sort of things about the Center for Excellence as well. A $100 million building sitting half empty.

        They also built the chemical labs with hoods that can’t be shut off, even if the lab is not in use. As a result, the tax payers spend almost $1 million a year to heat and cool this building.

      • Dan November 25, 2009 at 12:51 am #

        New York state law dictates 30% air change which is completely insane. This means a large institution buys argon windows, high efficiency boiler and latest digital controls then it mandates taking in 30% freezing cold outside air and reheating it. No attempt is made to capture heat in exhausted air the result is heating bills double and no body gives a fuck. its the”for the children” matra. Politicians are low life scum that couldn’t get a job anywhere else. The Government destroys wealth, freedoms and humanity. All we need is someone to pick up the garbage…nothing else.

      • al l November 25, 2009 at 9:26 am #

        there are systems available – and perhaps are in place – for systems like these. a heat exchanger uses the conditioned air exiting the building to pretreat the air entering the HVAC system.

  4. Brian Castner November 24, 2009 at 3:03 pm #

    This being the Christmas Season, I reminded of Sally from the Charlie Brown teevee special: “All I want is what’s coming to me. All I want is my fair share.”

  5. Jonathan Wellinton-Fidrych III November 24, 2009 at 7:43 pm #

    You stinking Bolsheviks just don’t understand the need to give millions to the finer and brighter people in local society so that they may return us to the greatness robbed by Socialism. With UB2020 and the new riverside BassPro, Bethlehem Steel and Bell Aircraft will reopen, ocean freighters will once more visit our ports and Main street will be returned to its 1950s splendor. Only then will jobs and prosperity tinkle down to you nose picking, wealth killing, cock roaches.

    • Dan November 24, 2009 at 7:58 pm #

      Dont forget Curtiss Aircraft, Westinghouse Large motor, Sylvania electronics, Buffalo Color and several steel mills, refinerys with endless small machine shops. This is an incomplete list to be sure did I forget grain mills? The fact is The industry we remember is a couple of generations old in technology. If the great Soviet state didnt steal all thier money they would of evolved into what we would call today “modern industry” but that evolution was cut short by their migration. So instead of Bell aircraft being in Fort Worth it would be here etc.

      • al l November 25, 2009 at 9:27 am #

        damn it, you both forgot to re-open the breweries!

      • Todd November 25, 2009 at 11:57 am #

        One good reason the work went elsewhere, especially down south -is that they don’t have to spend inordinate amounts to heat a building 7 months a year, and then air conditioning 5 months compared to just air conditioning 7 moths a year. And having worked at Sylvania- that was corporate decisions by GTE(corporate owners) to sell it to other corporations such as Magnavox and Philco and others in one of those great tax dodge capitalist decisions to screw everybody for profits.

  6. Paul Wolf November 25, 2009 at 1:00 am #

    A key requirement for economic development is laying the infrastructure foundation that encourages and contributes to development. Educated and creative people build businesses, we need as many of them as we can get. Supporting UB in their efforts to increase student enrollment makes economic sense to me. UB is and will be a far greater economic development magnet than Bass Pro or many other projects will ever be.

    While I understand the point of your post, I at least respect the fact that the Partnership has identified some key points to focus on. Most of our elected officials do not have a vision or plan to move Buffalo forward.

    • Jonathan Wellinton-Fidrych III November 25, 2009 at 12:22 pm #

      Mr. Wolf: Good cover angle for our corporate welfare promoters! We can use more nice young men like you in our local elite clubs. Do you play polo?

    • Jay November 29, 2009 at 10:46 pm #

      Paul I think that you cannot see the forest for the trees. The graduates of UB and most other colleges and universities in New York State have been graduating many educated and creative students for years. I am sure that many are successful in other areas of the country and world. The complaint has been that they have to move to find jobs since private businesses prefer to operate in other states or countries. My question to you is after an investment of billions of dollars in UB 2020 and with its increased numbers of graduates why won’t we just have a larger number of graduated students moving out of the area and state? They will take their subsidized education to other areas. How will UB 2020 make WNY or NYS more competitive in attracting business? Every major project that is built in WNY has in its platform, ” that someday this project will attract private capital.”

  7. Hank November 25, 2009 at 1:47 pm #

    There was a time when Buffalo had more breweries than any city in the US—that was in the late 1800’s. We now have lots of empty manufacturing space, since the pols sat on their hands with their pieholes closed while all the companies that used to be in WNY carried their asses south, or out of the country altogether. Why not let the microbrewers know about our endless supply of clean water, and factory space that will go cheap? Why can’t WNY become a brewing center again? certainly are enough taste testers around.

    The BNP only shows that “ya can’t fix stupid”. Albany needs fresh blood, and several semesters of economics, along with the “You can’t be everything to everyone” anti-big government talk. Telling the state to leave us alone but give us the money we need—it’s just stupid.

    • Dan November 25, 2009 at 8:54 pm #

      When Buffalo was great there was bars on ever street. People visted with other ,ate the bar food which was awesome, drank the local beer and walked home. Try this today…..wakl home in the city=death… home after 2 beers=trip to the gulag and pay off some lawyer to sell you down the river = sentence =the Soviet state counsels you until you agree you have giant problems.

  8. Gabe November 25, 2009 at 9:26 pm #

    @Dan. I walk stumble home drunk on the streets of Buffalo all the time. Still alive. You need to actually come into the city once and awhile from wherever the hell you actually live. Also, spend 2 days in real GULAG and your sphincter will be a tad more apprehensive when it comes to spewing such hyperbole.

    @Paul. No use explaining simple common sense concepts to the Faux News “free marketeer” Koolaid sluggin’ dittoheads.

    • Dan November 25, 2009 at 11:01 pm #

      If I understand you . Your saying sexual torture in prison will make me appreciate your point of view?

  9. Don Pesola November 26, 2009 at 12:11 am #

    It’s always the government and never mismanaged corporations or the demand for unfettered growth by dividend seeking shareholders. Sometimes growth comes at the expense of jobs, location, and quality. But, it can never be the company’s fault, it always has to be the evil corporation.

  10. MissingBuffalo November 26, 2009 at 11:21 am #

    In this day and age, does anybody receiving a pay-check think the company that gave it to them is evil? If they have any sense, the answer is no.

    Missing in this anti-corporate diatribe is the simple economic fact that tax burdens (local, state and federal) make it more difficult for the little guy/gal to start-up businesses of their own. It’s the small businessman and woman who suffer most.

    I agree. The so-called leadership of WNY needed a good flushing a LONG time ago. But don’t confuse the message with the messenger. A revamped NF Airport…is jobs. An expanded medical research corridor…is jobs. And quite frankly, given the history of neglect from Albany over the last five decades…finally helping WNY to get back on its feet and growing again is a debt owed…and LONG overdue.

    • Seth Payson November 29, 2009 at 9:49 am #

      A medical research corridor will not help WNY get back on its feet. The only way a medical corridor can survive is with unending, massive handouts from the state and the feds. It simply perpetuates the WNY reliance on handouts (currently a billion more a year than we pay in).

    • Peter A Reese November 29, 2009 at 10:38 pm #

      In addition to lack of sustainability, a medical corridor won’t provide any jobs for those who are here now and need them. Why does the bowtie elite insist on creating jobs for people who are not here? Since they are so happy to write off all indigenous citizens, we should write them off too. Maybe some other area can develop jobs to lure them away from western NY.

  11. Paul December 13, 2009 at 12:13 pm #

    I know you don’t care about the nuances, but I’m going to share them with you anyway. 🙂

    The amount of freedom we have here in upstate NY to handle our own taxes and projects is important to our economic development. I’d probably agree with the various proposals to make NYC it’s own state if the services provided by the state now can be efficiently and effectively assumed by the newly created states.

    This probably will never happen, but it’s the proposal I agree with the most, because I can’t see Erie County politicians figuring it out alone.

    On a mostly unrelated note, this moderate would like to ask you whether you’ve considered running for office. 🙂


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