Flame Bait: Statler

9 Feb
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I think keeping a mothballed, unused Statler with a negative value needing tens of millions of dollars in renovations and environmental remediation in the very heart of downtown Buffalo is infinitely worse than demolishing it and allowing something to be built on that block that people might actually use.

29 Responses to “Flame Bait: Statler”

  1. RvrSide February 9, 2010 at 7:54 am #

    nuke it, turn it into green space. Gives more room for protesters to assemble safely.

  2. al l February 9, 2010 at 8:04 am #

    its been empty a month – solution: for a few millions of taxpayer dollars (perhaps tens thereof), just tear it down!

    makes sense to me!

  3. Derek J. Punaro February 9, 2010 at 8:24 am #

    As I said in my post demolition solves no problems. You still have to remediate all the asbestos and the nasty stuff the slow, expensive way before you can knock it down. So start a government-funded program that does this, clean up the building, and then it has a much easier path to private redevelopment.

  4. Jackstraw February 9, 2010 at 8:44 am #

    So buy it, tear it down, or fix it up it’s a free country…to some degree at least.

  5. jesse February 9, 2010 at 9:32 am #

    ….. yeah, because we see all the other demo’ed buildings reused within months of being torn down.

    ….. yeah, like a parking lot.

    Tearing it down = really dumb idea.

  6. Brian February 9, 2010 at 9:36 am #

    We are in middle of a huge recession. Is it any wonder that a private developer couldn’t get financing for a risky development such as this now? Everyone should catch their breath, and revisit the situation 3 years from now. 

  7. Pauldub February 9, 2010 at 9:41 am #

    I think it would make a great convention center! Those are supposed to bring in big bucks! Oh, wait….

  8. STEEL February 9, 2010 at 9:48 am #

    We do need the parking especially since the court building took over the only parking lot on Niagara Square. I mean how can you not have parking on the main city square? Its insane!

  9. Christopher Smith February 9, 2010 at 9:59 am #

    Oh, I love when you do the bizarro Buffalo Rising thread!

    Step 1.) Make obvious statement, in their case, SAVE THIS BUILDING NOW!

    Step 2.) People opposed rush into argue with you, followed with fiery supporters. They slapfight all day over absolute meaninglessness.

    Step 3.) Profit? Well, they’ve shown it’s not profitable…

    • stan February 9, 2010 at 11:08 am #

      You forgot to mention the obligatory BRO – you are an asshole for even thinking that you have a right to an opinion differing form mine on this reply.

    • STEEL February 9, 2010 at 2:10 pm #

      Sound more like WMYmedia to me

      • Dan February 9, 2010 at 10:44 pm #

        > Sound more like WMYmedia to me

        I blame the city ghetto dwellers for any resemblance to that. In fact, I blame them for everything. ALLENHURST! LOONEY ACRES! KEEP THEM IN THEIR PLACE!

  10. lulu February 9, 2010 at 10:28 am #

    But the convention Center sign might get damaged during demolition. JK – actually saw on the News last night that it is going to be demoed (the ugly sign you love so much, not the Statler) this summer. Time will tell.

  11. Pauldub February 9, 2010 at 10:29 am #

    SAVE THE SIGN!!!!!!!

    • Dan February 9, 2010 at 10:38 pm #

      I strongly agree. It’s a very rare example of a 1970s-era Brutalist sign structure. We must keep it, and work to preserve the legacy of Brutalist architecture in the region; the Convention Center, City Court, the Marine Midland tower, the LRRT stations, and much of the UB North Campus.

  12. Marc Odien February 9, 2010 at 10:39 am #

    I think the city could use a big park lot right there 😉

  13. Mike February 9, 2010 at 12:05 pm #

    Only government backed union labor can solve this problem…

  14. pirate's code February 9, 2010 at 12:37 pm #

    Move it to the waterfront and give it to Bass Pro? Would it fit under the Skyway?

    • Pete @ BS February 9, 2010 at 12:52 pm #

      Actually, with those slots, it might fit AROUND the Skyway.

  15. Pete @ BS February 9, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    I think I mentioned months ago (@DerekPunaro can vouch for this) That the next logocal Buffalonian step here is to let it rot for a few years and then sell it to the Central Terminal Restoration Corp for a buck. Since that is the way it will probably go, can we just skip the rotting for a couple of years part.

    Another idea is to have people buy individual rooms or floors and fix them up themselves. I ‘ll take room 617 -that’s my wife’s birthday.

    • Derek J. Punaro February 9, 2010 at 1:30 pm #

      Pete – your wife called. She said if you give her a room at the Statler for Valentine’s Day, she’s leaving you.

      • Pete @ BS February 9, 2010 at 6:19 pm #

        Derek – I really have to start posting under the name NotPete@BS so my wife doesn’t know it’s me.

  16. Jon Splett February 9, 2010 at 1:40 pm #

    What happened to all the talk of UB moving it’s law school there? Is that dead?

    • Fat Tony February 9, 2010 at 4:10 pm #

      The only people talking about the Law School there are politicians who wanted a cheap day’s worth of press but aren’t willing to put their money where their mouth is. UB should be focused on getting its medical schools onto the medical campus first and foremost, which is the first step of UB 2020. Anything else is a distraction of time and resources.

  17. HapKlein February 9, 2010 at 3:12 pm #

    I bet if folk took their time and really structured a rehab of the building into a wide open general purpose business center that enough federal and state asbestos abatement money would be available. In the three to five years this would take the real estate market could recover enough to really create a neat downtown center.
    How about just forgiving taxes and utilities for three years and open the building to a bidding process. Winner takes all but taxes resume with first sale?
    A city is allowed only one really stupid demolition and we already did that with the Larkin building. This is your last chance…forever!

  18. Pete @ BS February 9, 2010 at 6:24 pm #

    I agree with everyone that it is a great property. And I agree that it is a money pit. If, in fact, the city/county/state/ wants to do something with it, it is going to take something creative like the ideas that @HapKlein proposes. This is the problem with our region as a whole…..don’t think outside the box.

  19. Mike February 9, 2010 at 10:02 pm #

    Yes, we should look toward the government for help…

  20. Dan February 9, 2010 at 10:40 pm #

    You know who else has “tler” as the last four letters of their name?

  21. Dan February 9, 2010 at 10:41 pm #

    Maybe they can convert this building into a Roman Catholic church.

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