Recordbreaking

1 Mar

When the minority opposition party’s raison d’être, as expressed by its leader Comte Limbaugh de Palme-Ouest, is to see the President fail, you get this: a record number of threatened filibusters and cloture votes. 112 last year. Over 40 already in just the first two months of 2010.

Luckily, reconciliation on budget bills is an equally valid Senate procedural tactic and lets them get it done with 51. After all, that’s what the Republicans did when George W. Bush was president and they needed to push through massive deficit-expanding tax cuts.

Either way, the Democrats should make the Republicans make good on their threat to filibuster health insurance reform. Make them talk, just like then-Democratic Senator Strom Thurmond talked for over 24 hours in his effort to prevent African-Americans from being guaranteed a right to vote.

21 Responses to “Recordbreaking”

  1. Hapklein March 1, 2010 at 7:11 am #

    I am urging Lousie to really be a legislator and allow the filibuster to commence. This time it will be on C-Spann and the world can watch the new strain of obstructionist tactics for all their worth. Linking this filibuster to Strom’s is an excellent opportunity for exposing the party of No to its rightful place in history.
    The morons who have devised this fiasco in american history must be exposed for the shallow, clueless bunch they are.
    Can anyone find a Republican who admits that USA health costs ae double the next nation?
    Just the Olympics can be used to demonstrate the benefit of healthy lifestyles. Norway has about the same population as Minnesota and is among the top nations in medals.
    Find out what success does and copy it.

  2. Dan March 1, 2010 at 8:58 am #

    Eat Lutefisk!
    I agree with Alan – let the GOP filibuster. If I was a GOP sen. I would simply read the bill and then let it come to a vote. The Dems will be hoist by their own petard. Fact is, I am not convinced the Dems will hit 51 votes. Too many value their jobs more than their principles.

  3. Chris from OP March 1, 2010 at 9:32 am #

    Force them to filibuster.  Now they dither around history mumbling “delay” and “start again.”  Let them stand astride history shouting “NO!” for as long as their bodies can withstand.  

  4. Mike March 1, 2010 at 9:34 am #

    Yes let the GOP filibuster! The Senate system was designed for just this reason. Get ready for the Slaughter in Novemebr… pun intended.

  5. STEEL March 1, 2010 at 9:53 am #

    I want to hear them explain what part of our health insurance system is the best in the world like they keep saying because I can’t figure that part out.

    I want them to explain why our system costs twice as much as the next most expensive country

    I want them to explain why the results from our system are not even in the top 20

    I want them to explain why illness is the greatest cause of personal bankruptcy in the US

    I want to hear them explain why insurance companies are making record profits in a bad economy but still need to hike rates.

    Oh, I know they won’t address any of these issues. Maybe they will talk about Obama’s birth certificate instead.

  6. Hapklein March 1, 2010 at 11:14 am #

    Actually Boehner does have the best health coverage on the planet. But with that the truth sort of ends in a sea of ideological rhetoric. I really think the Part Of No has a long term strategy of shredding all the current efforts and in two years winning majorities in both houses and giving birth to a health care reform designed by the insurance industry.
    Imagine with the open purse allowed by the Roberts court and money galore to spend on the effort the next election will make the TV industry the number one profit industry in America.
    The airwaves will be filed with one hour infomercials that will compel the simple minded (i.e. 60% of the voters) to save America by voting Republican.
    Senator Conyers (R) from Texas has already convinced banking of the parties huge rise in strength and has money to prove it.
    If you think money can’t buy elections you have been kidnapped by martians and kept incognito for twenty years. We are at a threshold of a wole new era of how this nation elects our representatives.
    The Robert’s court has a quiver of cases in the ante room just waiting to buttress and reinforce the new way of doing things. Corporate America we are here! Submit and smile…they won.

  7. Howard Goldman March 1, 2010 at 3:48 pm #

    I am going to capitalize on this entire debate by inventing new insurance products.
    1) Health Insurance Insurance. You buy it if you are afraid that government health insurance breaks.
    2) Global Warming Insurance. Buy it so that just in case the seas rise, you can afford the high ground.
    3) Social Security Insurance Insurance. Protects you when the government can’t send those checks anymore.
    4) Dollar Insurance. Protects you from all non gold backed paper currencies failing in case people lose their faith in printing presses.
    5) Hope And Change Insurance. Why not have yourself covered, just in case your taxes really do go up?

    • STEEL March 1, 2010 at 4:26 pm #

      How about “living on a cloud insurance” for coverage in case the Republicans get back in office. This allows you to live in a make believe world where there are no problems to solve and everything would be just hunky dory if we could only just get back to 1950. Please note that minorities, Single mothers, poor people, old people, sick people, artists, musicians, (these last 2 are particularly intended to weed out the gays but since some may slip through the entire category is subject to the restriction) and anyone not part of the Christian portion of Judeo-Christian America are not eligible for this coverage. Also anyone living within the boundaries of a major city must submit notarized affidavits proving they are not part of any of the above listed groups. With proper documentation this group is eligible but is subject to a 100% surcharge payable in advance for the entire term of coverage.

  8. Mike March 1, 2010 at 8:08 pm #

    Sounds like a majority of people who visit this site actually believe the W.H.O.’s ranking of the US health care system… Take a look at some of the countries ahead of the US; like Andorra (pop 69,000), San Marino (pop 29,000)… would you really rather be treated in countries like Greece, Oman, Columbia, and Cuba?

    • STEEL March 2, 2010 at 12:24 am #

      If I had no insurance, like a huge group do in American the choice is no health care at all.

    • Eric Saldanha March 2, 2010 at 8:16 am #

      It’s a pity those countries you mentioned – most with a single-payer system with a national heath system option and all with health care spending percentages much lower than the U.S.’s 16% of GDP – don’t have a daddy healthcare conglomerate, like United or Wellpoint, to throw cancer patients, domestic violence victims and sick children off the rolls.

  9. Mike March 2, 2010 at 9:12 am #

    Steel and Eric, Cancer survival rates in the US are higher than in Canada and England. Single payer systems ration care because of budgetary constraints. As for the great health care system of San Marino…

    • Eric Saldanha March 2, 2010 at 10:40 am #

      To call you a broken record would be an insult to what’s left of Rod Stewart’s Do Ya Think I’m Sexy? album I received instead of AC/DC on my 11th birthday.

      • Mike March 2, 2010 at 11:06 am #

        Dirty deeds done dirt cheap will not be covered under this reform bill…

    • STEEL March 2, 2010 at 1:55 pm #

      And none of them would trade their form of rationing for ours. How is that right wingers don’t consider dumping people off insurance as rationing? In Canada I might have to wait a week or two extra. IN America I don’t have to wait at all because I won’t be getting any medical care at all if I can’t afford it. No one in other industrial counties dies because they cannot affordf treatment. They do in the US I guess that means you could describe insurance companies as death panels.

      Record profits yet they need to raise rates!

      Wake up! we have rationing here and you can pick and choose certain countries that have worse medical results for certain diseases than the US but the fact is that overall the American system is way down the list as far as results go.

      • Mike March 2, 2010 at 3:14 pm #

        “And none of them would trade their form of rationing for ours…” Ahhhh did you hear about the Canadian Premier coming here for heart surgery two weeks ago?

      • STEEL March 2, 2010 at 6:43 pm #

        Of course if you don’t have insurance in the US you can not get heart surgery in the US. So who cares if we have the best surgeons in the universe? If you don’t have the money to pay them then you might just as well be in Haiti .

        Well what the heck we have the best health insurance system in the world supposedly which means we pay twice as much and only sort of get covered. But since a Millionaire Canadian from the boonies comes to the US for surgery that is proof that America’s system of driving people into bankruptcy to provided record profits to insurance companies is the bestest ever.

      • Mike March 2, 2010 at 7:36 pm #

        The entire point of reform is to lower costs so more people can afford insurance… What state has the highest healthcare premiums? The state that has mandatory universal healthcare, MA.

      • Eric Saldanha March 2, 2010 at 9:37 pm #

        1) The report you’re citing did not separate how much premiums in Massachusetts have increased since the 2006 healthcare legislation went into effect, so we don’t know what effect the law had on premium increases.
        2) Non-group, individual insurance premiums in Massachusetts dropped 40% from 2007 to 2009, while they rose in the rest of the nation 14%. But, even still…
        3) the 2006 legislation was intended to concentrate on health coverage expansion first, then address costs later. The federal reform legislation, on the other hand, is addressing expansion and cost reduction simultaneously. The CBO report on the Senate bill last November showed that while premiums may slightly increase, the actual out-of-pocket costs for most Americans would go down significantly due to federal subsidies for low- and middle-class consumers. Of course, everything is hypothetical at this point until the House and Senate resolve their differences and arrive at a final bill.

      • Mike March 2, 2010 at 11:07 pm #

        1) yes we do know, look at Indiana 2)forcing people to purchase insurance will do that 3) expand coverage and worry about costs later?!?! Hawaii tried that…

      • STEEL March 2, 2010 at 11:56 pm #

        Every country with universal coverage cost far far far less than the Uniteds states even though the United States covers only a percentage of its people. So arguing that niversal coverage costs more is a non starter. The Massachusetts plan still has to operate in an overall effed up American system of bloated costs. Switzerland has universal coverage and medical results far superior to the US. American medical costs are 2 time higher. Its crazy that this is even a debate.

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