Massa’s Shock Disclosure: He Curses When Drunkedly Joking

8 Mar

Via Rochester Turning, Eric Massa (NY-29)explains what all the “sexual harrassment” fuss is about:

I have to come find out that on New Year’s Eve, I went to a staff party — it was actually a wedding for a staff member of mine. There were 250 people there. I was with my wife, and in fact we had a great time. She got the stomach flu, I went down to sing Auld Lang Syne. And with cameras on me — I’m talking three of them — filming me, I danced with the bride, and I danced with the bridesmaid. Absolutely nothing occurred.

I said goodnight to the bridesmaid. I sat at down at the table where my whole staff was, all of them, by the way bachelors. One of them looked at me and — as they would do after, I don’t know, 15 gin and tonics and goodness only knows how many bottles of champagne — a staff member made an intonation to me that maybe I should be chasing after the bridesmaid. His points were clear and his words were far more colorful than that.

And I grabbed the staff member sitting next to me and I said, ‘What I really ought to be doing is frakking you,’ and then tossled the guy’s hair and left, went to my room, because I knew the party was getting to a point where I shouldn’t be there.

Was that inappropriate of me? Absolutely.

Is that even remotely similar or comparable to, e.g., what Mark Foley did? Absolutely not. Top top it off, Massa went on the radio yesterday to allege that the ethics inquiry is politically motivated to push him out of the House in order to get final resolution on health care reform. Massa has been a no vote for anything not containing a strong and vibrant public option. He even suggested that he might rescind his resignation.

So, now that we know the genesis of the sexual harassment claim against Massa, I wholeheartedly condemn his drunken use of the word “fuck” to connote sexual intercourse with a man in a joking manner after a wedding reception.

In the meantime, I reiterate my earlier statement. I’m disappointed in his retirement, and saddened by the news that his cancer has re-appeared. Best wishes to him – a principled and honorable guy.

29 Responses to “Massa’s Shock Disclosure: He Curses When Drunkedly Joking”

  1. Peter A Reese March 8, 2010 at 9:35 am #

    If this is an accurate account, I don’t think Massa did anything which about 150 million other guys in this country haven’t said and done. If I were hearing an ethics complaint based on this incident alone, I would laugh the matter out of the room. There is either a lot more not being disclosed or this is complete baloney.

  2. peteherr March 8, 2010 at 9:35 am #

    Is a this really something you resign over? Or is there more to the story?

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 9:39 am #

      Yeah, he’s also got a cancer relapse scare, and said he doesn’t want to put his family through the misery of an investigation like this.

      All you need to do is look at the hateful ignorance spewed in comments at me and Massa in my earlier post to get an infinitesimal taste of what he’s up against.

      • Peter A Reese March 8, 2010 at 9:53 am #

        @Alan: Why can’t you accept constructive criticism without it becoming spewed hateful arrogance? Sure Steve was a little linguistically challenged, but I tried to work with him to clean up his act. Maybe you are just very easy to dislike. I don’t see why you have to project your shortcomings back at us. Living in Buffalo, we already have enough to feel inferior about without you heaping it on. I would write more, but right now I need a good cry.

  3. c squared March 8, 2010 at 9:39 am #

    Maybe if Massa had requested a lap dance from the guy instead, he would still be in office?

    I think I buy the counting of the votes for the lame health care bill explanation.

  4. Mike in WNY March 8, 2010 at 9:47 am #

    Flip-flopping on his  resignation?  It doesn’t sound like he thinks things through very carefully.  Or, he thinks people will buy the conspiracy theory, which begs the question, why didn’t he mention it before?

    • Peter A Reese March 8, 2010 at 9:55 am #

      I don’t think Massa understands the Austrian School.

  5. Ward March 8, 2010 at 11:03 am #

    In your excitement, you missed the last sentence of the piece:

    A Massa aide has told POLITICO that the New York Democrat has been engaged in inappropriate behavior “for eight months.”

    If Massa’s improbable account is the truth, your party’s congressional leadership and Rahm-led WH political operatives are corrupt. If Massa is not telling the truth, your repeated “principles and honorable guy” endorsement is off the mark.

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 11:18 am #

      Heavens! You mean *gasp* he’s cursed before?

  6. Jon Splett March 8, 2010 at 12:44 pm #

    Not trying to troll but why were you so outraged by Collins’ lap dance comment but not this?

    They’re both stupid, non-issues as far as I’m concerned but come on…ill advised mildly sexual jokes are either okay for politicians to crack or they’re not.

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 1:07 pm #

      @Splett: The facts are completely distinguishable.

      1. Massa’s comment was, according to him, made in direct response to another person’s profane sexual remark. The context dulls the outrage.
      2. The complainant in the Massa case wasn’t the person to whom, or about whom, the comment was directed. If the person Massa had joked about fucking was the complainant, then it would be the same thing in my mind. But it’s not.
      3. The corrolary of #2 is that the object of the comment was not offended by it. In Collins’ case, that’s not true.
      4. The Collins remark was teeming with sexism & degradation of women. Massa’s comment was directed to a male.
      5. Collins’ remark was made at an official government function. Massa’s was made to a bunch of drunk people after a private event.
      6. Massa admitted that he made the remark & acknowledged that it was wrong. Collins never did either of those things.

      • Jon Splett March 8, 2010 at 2:17 pm #

        Where are you getting that the person the remark was said to isn’t the person who complained about Massa’s joke? I’m not seeing that in any of the articles linked but I might just be missing that. Who exactly lobbed these charges at Massa to begin with? And in Collins case, the woman who he made the comment to wasn’t the one to complain about it either (publically, at least). The story came from people who overheard it.

        I’ll grant you that Massa coming out and admitting his remark puts him above Collins, if in fact, the only thing he did was what he described. The jury is still out on that but based on the pathetic leadership of Democratic party, I wouldn’t put it past them to try and run the guy out of office for voting against them. It gives them an easy scapegoat when the bill fails to pass and they lose a seat that wasn’t helping them out to begin with.

        Also, while I find neither joke offensive, the ‘it’s okay because he was a guy’ excuse is kind of bullshit and sexist in it’s own right. Only heterosexual jokes are considered sexual harassment now? If I have an older male boss who gives me the wink and the gun and tells me he wants to fuck me, that’s not degrading? Assuming a guy should just shrug it off while a woman has a right to be offended is a double standard.

  7. Roaring Republican March 8, 2010 at 12:47 pm #

    OK so you believe his side of the story and are not waiting for the ethics investigation. Good for you. So then do you ALSO accept his premise that:

    1) He was FORCED out because of Health Care
    2) All of his distaste and belief about Rahm Emanuel & his belief that he was bullied by a man willing to take extreme, potentially threatening & harassing measures, to pass this HC bill?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/08/massa_rahm_emanuel_would_sell_his_own_mother_for_votes.html

    Because if you do, the Chief of Staff bullying your guy in this way is pretty serious. Since you are so willing to just accept Massa’s account on the harassment, you no doubt are willing to believe the Executive Branch is threatening and moving to oust a Congressman as he suggests as part of his account.

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 1:01 pm #

      1. Massa pointed out that the revelation of an ethics probe such as this, at this stage, is unprecedented. If true, that’s very significant.

      2. The quote on RCP about Emanuel is nothing new or novel. It’s widely known that Rahm Emanuel is blunt and rude. Whether he jabbed his finger at Massa in a shower? Not surprised. The guy’s a well-renowned asshole. And I have no doubt that he was very confrontational with Massa over HCR. The fact that he wasn’t going to vote for this bill shouldn’t be news to anyone who’s been paying attention, nor should the reasons for it. He stood on his principle about a public option, and considered the current bill to not contain much of one.

      3. It seems to me that Massa is pretty fucking pissed about this ethics investigation, and as he also said, the investigation itself would be quite burdensome not just politically but personally. If he is being railroaded out of congress, it should be out in the open and looked into. Absolutely, I believe it. If you read the news this morning, there were at least a few headlines that touted how Nancy Pelosi would have an easier time getting HCR passed without Eric Massa being in the way.

  8. Roaring Republican March 8, 2010 at 1:17 pm #

    You libs love conspiracy theories, lol

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 1:20 pm #

      Yes, it’s far outside the realm of reality to suggest that charges against Massa are being trumped-up. It’s not like you and a bunch of other people were trying to shame me last week about the horrific and probably criminal serial ass-fucking that Massa was engaging in or threatening against his staff.

      Also, “lol” – what are you, 12?

  9. Terry March 8, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    Hey, BP—looks like you blew this one (pun intended…lol)

  10. Roaring Republican March 8, 2010 at 1:27 pm #

    Yes, I am like totally and junk.

    I don’t know or care what he did frankly, his policies are what worry me not his behavior. I just think it is hilarious that you completely ignored the reason he was leaving and are now doing everything possible to be his apologist. I never read your blog but when I saw the headline I came here immediately expecting you to find some way to explain it away. Sure enough…

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 1:33 pm #

      I don’t know or care what he did frankly, his policies are what worry me not his behavior.

      Which is why last week you rushed to comment on my site in response to a post where I wished the guy well for having a recurrence of cancer and thinking he’s a principled guy.

      I just think it is hilarious that you completely ignored the reason he was leaving

      Oh, we’re playing hindsight 20/20 are we? The reasons for his departure turn out to be a possible malignant tumor and a definite benign comment.

      and are now doing everything possible to be his apologist. I never read your blog but when I saw the headline I came here immediately expecting you to find some way to explain it away. Sure enough…

      Of course you never read this blog. No one ever reads this blog. As the kids say, “lol”.

  11. Roaring Republican March 8, 2010 at 1:53 pm #

    I raced to comment because it is laughable that you would completely ignore the news!

    If his health is the reason he left, why is he now suggesting he might not resign? Have fun squaring that. Anyway back to not reading your blog!

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 1:56 pm #

      I raced to comment because it is laughable that you would completely ignore the news!

      What news? What news was there to ignore? That someone accused him of something? Well, gosh darn!

      If his health is the reason he left, why is he now suggesting he might not resign? Have fun squaring that. Anyway back to not reading your blog!

      Because his pissed-offedness is greater than his health concerns. Also, Sarah Palin groupies should be more cautious about what they ridicule. Same goes for Cheney groupies. Toodles.

  12. c squared March 8, 2010 at 3:06 pm #

    Maybe Massa wasn’t talking about sex at all.

    Fracking: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_fracturing

    Its a huge controversial issue all over NYS, especially in Massa’s district

  13. Christopher Smith March 8, 2010 at 4:06 pm #

    Listen you mouthbreathers, this is a blog that leans to the left and shockingly, the author of said blog tends to extend a bit more latitude to Democrats on issues like this. If you’re looking for David fucking Brinkley, look somewhere else.

    I don’t speak for Alan, but I will tell you where I stand and I can guarantee that most Democrats would agree with me. Eric Massa is a guy I’ve met and supported. He supports policies and ideas I agree with and surprisingly, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt as all of this unfolds. Frankly, I don’t care if he’s a closeted homosexual or is a general asshole and rude to people around him. He fights for policies I support and has not been duplicitous by pursuing/sponsoring/supporting legislation which condemns the very behavior in which he engages privately, (see: Foley, Mark and Craig, Larry)

    He is a fervent supporter of repealing DADT and advocates for equality and Domestic Partner Rights. So, forgive me if I don’t give one flying fuck about vague allegations of same sex behavior and interest. If and when something concrete on this comes out, I’ll give it another look.

  14. Eric Saldanha March 8, 2010 at 4:24 pm #

    This is interesting. It’s one thing to be a principled guy, especially in politics. It’s quite another to go on the LoonyTown Hour to whinge about how Rahm The Merciless >a href=”http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/08/massa_rahm_emanuel_would_sell_his_own_mother_for_votes.html”>pokes him while naked in the shower and the House Democrats are railroading him out of office because of his health care reform vote (when did he become the single deciding vote?). Trashing the party is not the kind of behavior I expect from him.

    • Eric Saldanha March 8, 2010 at 4:26 pm #

      Sorry, here’s the link to the Rahm-in-the-shower rant

    • Alan Bedenko March 8, 2010 at 6:16 pm #

      I’m not surprised by the trashing. I am surprised by the Beck appearance, though.

      Guy must be wicked pissed.

  15. Mike March 8, 2010 at 4:49 pm #

    The Sailor vs. The Ballerina in a naked political death match… Don’t drop that soap.

  16. Mike March 8, 2010 at 5:06 pm #

    Glenn Beck said he spoke with Massa for 30 minutes this afternoon. He is supporting Massa…
    Alan B. and Glenn B. have much more in common than we all thought.

  17. The Wizard March 8, 2010 at 7:25 pm #

    Alan – I’m a bit disappointed that you are buying this conspiracy B.S. and for being so soft on Massa. Let’s be real, a male staffer is accusing Massa of saying sexually aggressive statements and that it has been going on for 8 months. So let’s look at the timeline here – first, Massa denies doing anything wrong and blames it on a 3 month old cancer scare. The next day, he decides that excuse doesn’t work and admits to, perhaps, saying some “salty” things on late night drives with a staffer. By friday, he decides that excuse also doesn’t work and says he’s quitting Congress completely to avoid having to put his family/staff through an ethics investigation. And when he wakes up this morning, that excuse now doesn’t work for him either. So now, it’s a Dem Leadership conspiracy because he is a “no” vote on health care. What does a person need to do to lose credibility to you, Alan? Good grief. Massa is out of control and trying to take down anyone he can with him. And now he’s going on Glen Beck tomorrow FOR AN HOUR to slam HCR and the Dems. What a disgrace. I raised my glass at 5pm today when Massa officially resigned. One less moron in Washington we need to listen to.

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