It’s Come to This

9 Mar

HT Elizabeth Benjamin at Daily Politics

12 Responses to “It’s Come to This”

  1. Mike March 9, 2010 at 9:40 pm #

    Fun TV…
    Red meat for the political animal.

  2. Eric Saldanha March 9, 2010 at 10:00 pm #

    Alan – I’m sorry you put your trust and belief in a guy that’s in the midst of some multi-day meltdown. I’m sure it’s not the first time you’ve been disappointed by a politician and I can assure you, it won’t be the last. Still sucks, though. For what it’s worth, we should still believe in (and work to get elected…and contribute to) men and women who share our causes, our passions and our views. We just hope they don’t get corrupted by the system, jaded by the cynicism or go on the Beck Bull Goose Loony Show to compare his activities in the Navy to an orgy of Caligula’s. And talk about his tickle fights with staff. Jeez….

  3. Brian Castner March 9, 2010 at 10:13 pm #

    Massa = tragedy, Foley = hellspawn and indicitive of everything wrong with the Republican party? WTF? Are we ready to admit that scumbags exist on both sides of the aisle yet? I don’t enjoy seeing it, but I believe it all – tickle fights, drunk propositions, and a Dem conspiracy to kick him out. BTW, Eric – how does anything that he did (allegedly) have anything to do with being “corrupted by the system?”

    • Alan Bedenko March 10, 2010 at 5:47 am #

      If you can cite where I said that only Republicans could be scumbags, I’d be much obliged.

      The Foley situation was different because of a concerted effort by the Republican Congressional leadership at the time, Tom Reynolds chief among them, to cover it up. If you’ll recall anything I wrote about the situation, I was laughing at Foley’s self-loathing-gay-guy hypocrisy. It was the cover-up that was worse than the crime.

      In this case, the full measure of the allegations has come out thanks to Democratic Congressional leadership in a matter of 5 days.

      • Brian Castner March 10, 2010 at 9:42 am #

        My post was directed more at your commenters (from the various threads on this topic) than you. You were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for too long (in my opinion), but that’s different.

        That being said, it is true that this came to light much faster, but not out of the goodness of the heart of Hoyer/Rahm/Pelosi. Its because they had to throw Massa under the bus before he did anymore damage. Foley wasn’t screaming about a Republican conspiracy to stop legislation. The two situations could not be any more different in that aspect.

      • Mike March 10, 2010 at 10:39 pm #

        …in a matter of 5 months not days, mid-Oct to March is 5 months.

      • Ward March 11, 2010 at 10:45 am #

        Coverup?
        Now it appears that the office of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (sorry to bring her name up) knew of the Massa complaints in October, yet did nothing. Does that meet your definition of a coverup–or come uncomfortably close?

    • Eric Saldanha March 10, 2010 at 12:30 pm #

      Brian –
      1) that’s a wee bit of a strawman to allege that any of us ever said that scumbags only exist on the Republican side of the aisle. Now, it is my contention that there is a far greater population of scumbaggery in the GOP, with which you are free to take issue.
      2) How did anyone -Hoyer or Pelosi, let alone Rahm (?) – “throw Massa under the bus” when he resigned of his own volition and went on the Beck Loony Hour to proclaim that no one pushed him out, it was all him?
      3) what “damage” was Massa doing before his meltdown? He was a no vote on health care reform….fine. Pelosi was converting other “nays” so his vote really wasn’t the deciding one. Now, if Massa wants to complain about the House leadership (and the WHCOS) pressuring him on his vote, all I can say is to echo Senator Bunning – “tough shit”. That’s how Washington works and if you’re bucking your own party on some quixotic crusade (like Kucinich is doing now), expect to hear about it.
      4) I didn’t mean to say that Massa was “corrupted by the system”. I was trying to illustrate some of the paths that idealistic elected candidates can sometimes go when they reach office – corruption, cynicism or whatever the hell Massa is displaying right now.
      5) I know you must be eager to draw some parallel to current scandals involving Democratic politicians, but the Democrats are woefully behind the GOP when it comes to condoning, coddling and protecting their own crooks, thugs and perverts in Congress. As to the last gentleman referenced, Sen. Vitter, I may even say the GOP likes to “baby” their ne’er-do-wells.

  4. Ward March 10, 2010 at 7:28 am #

    Massa and Emanuel in the shower = Borat and Azamat wrestling naked.
    I think you should have drawn the curtain of charity over your guy a week ago, Alan.

  5. Ward March 11, 2010 at 7:19 pm #

    Update: One of the complaints against Massa is that he took a young male staff member of — wait for it — Barney Frank on a private dinner date — behavior which Barney’s Chief of Staff (hey, I don’t make up these titles) deemed unseemly.

    Well, at least he didn’t send him any too-friendly text messages like that reprobate Foley.

    • Eric Saldanha March 11, 2010 at 9:47 pm #

      Massa took a guy out to dinner? Wow….good catch, Woodward. Tell Bernstein he can close the case if he meets the key contact Jack Mehoff in the parking garage at midnight.

      What precisely would you have had Nancy Pelosi’s office do when informed that Rep. Massa took another man (gasp) out to dinner? She’s the freaking Speaker of the House, not his mother.

      But thank you, yet again, for reminding us that, whatever Massa did, it will probably pale in comparison to a 50ish Republican Congressman (a closeted self-hater who supported his party’s rabid homophobia) who stalked underage pages (not staff, mind you) with sexually explict messages. The kind that get you a 5-10 bid in normal society. While Speaker Hastert’s office knew about the pedophile in their midst for at least two and a half years, but did nothing.

      BTW, Ward – you should really include more thigh-rubbing fag jokes in your posts. You’re way too sophisticated for the 12-year old boy demographic you seem to be aiming for.

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