#Paladino, Hasidim, and Homosexuals

13 Oct

The New York Post caught up with Carl Paladino’s nephew – the one Paladino cited as proof that he’s a “live and let live” guy when it comes to gays.

Carl Paladino’s openly gay nephew — whom the candidate points to as proof he’s no homophobe — said yesterday he was “very offended” by his uncle’s anti-gay rants.

Jeff Hannon, 23, a staffer for the Paladino campaign, also hasn’t shown up at work since the bomb-throwing GOP gubernatorial hopeful made his caustic comments about homosexuality, one of Hannon’s co-workers told The Post.

In a brief phone interview yesterday, Hannon, in his first public remarks on the incident, told The Post, “Obviously, I’m very offended by his comments.”

Hannon said he had no further comments “right now,” before hanging up.

The hunky, 6-foot-2 staffer hasn’t been seen at campaign headquarters in Buffalo since Sunday, one worker said.

“Everybody was talking about it today. They are worried about him,” said the worker. “They think he’s upset.”

Hannon graduated from SUNY-Buffalo in 2008 and majored in political science, according to his page on MySpace.com.

In April, he tweeted, “Finally some love 4 us gays!” and linked to a newspaper article about President Obama extending federal benefits to same-sex partners of government workers.

“Some of my best friends are gay” doesn’t make up for Paladino’s pandering to a miniscule, disproportionately influential, special interest group on Sunday.  It doesn’t make up for his doubling-down on Sunday’s insults to gays with Monday’s commentary on the Speedoism of gay pride parades. Paladino has made morality and values, including his Catholicism, an issue in this race over the course of the past 3 days.  Perhaps those alleged values need more challenging.

Supporters of gay rights protested outside Paladino’s HQ at Ellicott Square yesterday afternoon.  Tom Dolina was there, and estimates the crowd at about 100.

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Antoine Thompson spoke to the crowd. To his credit, he was the only WNY State Senator to have voted in favor of marriage equality when it came up for a vote last year:

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23 Responses to “#Paladino, Hasidim, and Homosexuals”

  1. Rob October 13, 2010 at 8:16 am #

    “Obviously, I’m very offended by his comments.”

    Exactly. Paladino and his supporters can hide from the issue and pretend that it’s only what’s in his heart that matters, but to ordinary people the issue is that his comments and emails are objectively offensive/intolerant/racist.

  2. BobbyCat October 13, 2010 at 9:06 am #

    Paladino doesn’t relate to gays, and apparently he doesn’t care about his nephew’s feelings. That’s a shame, but what else is new? That uncaring feeling is endemic in the tea party. Matt Taibbi described it well in his Rolling Stone article, http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/210904
    where Taibbi posits that tea party people are not so much racist as narcissists who see the world revolving around them – individually. Narcissism is the love of self and Paladino seems to be the poster boy of narcissism. He doesn’t relate to gays, to women, to blacks, to the poor. He doesn’t seem to relate to anybody other than himself. Sympathy or empathy are beyond the grasp of the tea party people. It’s not so much that they hate others, but narcicists simply don’t care about anyone but themselves. And that describes the tea party people that I have known. It’s all about me, me, me and me. And if they believe that Dick Armey or the Kock Brothers or any of the industrialist financing their movement care about them, they’re being played for suckers, big time. Don’t get me wrong. I’m a Dem but there are plenty of corrupt or co-opted Democrats in this country. But in my view, the Republican party has sold out completely. I can name lots of honest Democrats. Can you name an honest or ethical Republican? An honest tea party person? Ok, Ron Paul. Anyone else? The tea party movements revolves around low-information voters. It coincides nicely with the decades-long dumbing-down of America. At at time when American faces very vexng problems that require the best and the brightest candidates, we get a cavalcade of narcissistic candidates playing to their dumbed-down base promising them quick fixes to long term problems, telling one lie after the other. To quote Matt Taibbi: “They’re all full of shit”.

    Atta boy, Carl !!! You can fix everything with a baseball bat, Carl. We need more bullshit, Carl. Go, Go, Go (Away)..

  3. Mike In WNY October 13, 2010 at 10:16 am #

    @BobbyCat,

    The dumbing down of American is precisely why we have Big Government that is destroying the economy and the lack of respect for the individual (and their rights).

    To All,

    For the record, I do find some of Paladino’s remarks offensive. At the same time, I find the actions of people like Cuomo much more offensive and much more damaging to society. We no longer have the luxury to make political correctness a prime concern in this gubernatorial race. The level of taxation and spending negatively affecting the economy of NYS demands someone who is serious about changing things for the better. Cuomo’s pledge of “no new taxes” just doesn’t cut it. He has shown no inclination to seriously challenge the status quo that is sucking the life out of New York.

    If you want a candidate who sounds good and utters politically correct shit, then Cuomo is your man.

    Before everyone jumps on the horse-fucking bandwagon, I would like to reiterate that I am not defending Paladino’s proclivities per se, I am just saying that in the overall scheme of things they don’t matter. If you vote for Cuomo because of Paladino’s occasional garbage mouth, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face (BobbyCat, the analogy is for you since you seem to revel in them).

    Unfortunately, the fact that Paladino is the preferable candidate is a sad commentary about the state of governance that we are subjected to.

  4. Ethan October 13, 2010 at 10:25 am #

    People like Mike can equivocate all they want, but a vote for Paladino is still a vote for homophobia, and a vote for Cuomo is not. Also, Paladino is clearly not very libertarian. BobbyCat is right in so far as he is describing Paladino’s motavtion for running: utter narcissism.

  5. Hank October 13, 2010 at 10:37 am #

    For all of you, one politically incorrect WAH WAH WAH. The state’s a total mess, and it needs some good old fashioned scorched earth policy in Albany. You won’t get a “lets tear it down and rebuild this thing right” meme from Cuomo

    Don’t vote for Carl if your namby-pamby feelings are hurt because he speaks before he thinks. What politician doesn’t have that problem?

    This country prides itself on majority rule of government. The outrage one sees here would make you think 45% of all Americans are homosexual. Don’t know for sure but I’d say the number would be around 2-3%. Meanwhile 6 generations of americans of Polish extraction have been the butt of jokes and ridicule. Who gives a shit about that? Fucking NOBODY. So excuse me if I don’t cry because one politician flaps his piehole when he shouldn’t. If you like the way things are going in Albany, Vote for Cuomo—cause more of the same is all you’ll get. BTW I didn’t notice a whole lot of posts tearing up Paladino’s platform. just personal attacks—incited by him or not, straight from the Liberal Playbook….Good on ya!

    • Alan Bedenko October 13, 2010 at 11:12 am #

      @Hank:

      The problem with Paladino isn’t that he “speaks before he thinks”.

      The problem here is that Paladino is a self-made millionaire who has surrounded himself with sycophants, and has had only a compliant, relatively friendly press here in Buffalo. When he was a local crank, he could say whatever he wanted with abandon. Now, he’s running to lead the state. He can’t say whatever he wants with abandon. What he does and says now comes with scrutiny and consequences. This is new for Carl.

      This is fodder for a post in and of itself, but I think we’re coming to the realization that “politically correct” shouldn’t always have negative connotations. There is something impolitic about a Carl Paladino running off his mouth one day, backing up his mouth-shits the next, and then apologizing wholesale for his comments on the second day. We’ve had a string of bad judgment on the part of Carl Paladino. At what point does his bad judgment become an issue?

  6. Brian Castner October 13, 2010 at 10:39 am #

    @ Ethan: Where does homophobia rank on your list of qualities for the next governor? If you want a non-racist #1, a non-homophobe #2, a non-porn lover #3, and a fixer of the NYS tax and bureaucratic system #4, then you should certainly vote for Cuomo. Do you begrudge people for having that list in the opposite order? Especially when #1) the governor can affect the NYS budget a lot more than they can affect racism as it exists in our general society, and #2) some people genuinely see the budget as a larger problem in NY than societal racism.

  7. BobbyCat October 13, 2010 at 10:46 am #

    Let’s see if I understand your argument. Paladino might be xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist, racist or racially intolerant, pornographic, narcissistic, thuggish, crude and a liar, but other than that, he’d make a great governor. Did I leave anything out?

  8. Brian Castner October 13, 2010 at 10:50 am #

    @ Bobby: Essentially. I know you value voting for a “good person” first, and then issues second, but not everyone thinks that way, nor is your system inherently any better. Do you agree with every position of every politican you vote for? I would think, at least subconsciously, you (only as an example) say “Well, I like that Obama will pull us out of Iraq, and I like his healthcare plan, but I don’t like that he is against gay marriage. The war and healthcare are more important than gay marriage – I’ll vote for him.” Does that mean you are against gay marriage? Is a vote for Obama a vote against gay marriage? Or did you prioritize?

  9. Mike In WNY October 13, 2010 at 10:54 am #

    Ethan, for the sake of argument let’s assume Paladino is homophobic. I still maintain that Cuomo’s track record, combined with his platform, will not help the economy of NYS. Given that, what is more important? Do you want to live in a state with a politically correct governor while economic malaise continues and jobs continue to be elusive? Or, would you rather live in a state with a politically incorrect governor with an improving economy?

    Despite Paladino’s negatives, I still firmly believe Cuomo is the worse candidate.

  10. Ethan October 13, 2010 at 11:20 am #

    @Brian- Hey, you go vote for him if you think it’ll help; I know you don’t, but whatever.

    I think neither of them will change anything much, certainly not overnight nor by themselves- among (many) other things, it’s going to require a much more compliant legislature, which in turn will require a much more active (and informed) voting public.  It’s a long, long haul- not well suited for the “quick-fix”/”take a pill for it!” mentality of modern American culture.  If anyone reading this honestly believes that Carl can (or will), in 4 magic years, take NYS from zero to hero, I’m afraid you are amazingly naive.  If one really wants to see NYS become a better place, turn off “Dancing With The Stars” and stop believing that voting is the be-all, end-all of political acts.

    Personally, I think Paladino is a petty, hateful, narcissistic figure–likely also racist, misogynistic and homophobic to boot–and so I don’t want him representing me in this state nor do I want him representing this state to the rest of the country; I find it fucking embarrassing.  Of course you take the bad with the good, but in his case, I don’t see any good and I see plenty of bad.  End. Of. Story. 

  11. BobbyCat October 13, 2010 at 11:44 am #

    @Ethan.

    Well said.

  12. cashdollar October 13, 2010 at 12:26 pm #

    This isn’t about homosexuality. It’s about competence. Mr. Paladino has run the worst campaign for state wide office I’ve ever seen. Please explain how he will do a better running NYS than he has his campaign. Are you happy with the race he’s run in the general? You nominated this guy. You chose a guy who was completely unprepared to compete in statewide general election. For the sake of NYS you should have done a better job. If you want to want to believe we’ll see a repeat of the Lazio landslide, I’ll again quote that great sage Billy Ray Cyrus, “What ever stop the tears darlin’, what ever stops the tears.

  13. BobbyCat October 13, 2010 at 1:54 pm #

    @Brian. You offer a false dichotomy. My answer is neither. First, I want an honest and ethical candidate, regardless of his/her position on issues. Besides, I rarely with any candidate on every issue. Then I hope for a smart candidate with new ideas – solutions that never occurred to me.

    Paladino is like the anti-christ of candidates- a man devoid of common virtue, full of rage, completely inexperienced and running a disastrous campaign – as others have pointed out. He is unfit to govern a town, IMHO, much less the Empire State.

    Mr. Cuomo would not be my first choice of candidates, BTW. however that’s the choice we have. One has common virtues and government experience and the other does not.

    Paladino is tarring Buffalo’s reputation , such as it is, and I’m embarrassed too. Today the NY Daily News did a story on a gay bar that was operated by Paladino’s son in one of Paladino’s buidings. Why the Daily News is scooping the Buff News in our own backyard is an another embarrassment.

  14. Rob October 13, 2010 at 2:34 pm #

    Of course it’s a false choice. Why should anyone believe Paladino’s pledges to cut taxes and sending? How many lies has he told in the past two weeks alone? And his “seriousness” about cutting taxes is shown by his calling the Assembly Speaker – who has complete control of the legislative agenda – a criminal?

    Also, you gotta love the “Dumbing Down of American” rant. MORANS!

  15. kris October 13, 2010 at 2:41 pm #

    Seriously Hank – polish jokes. You are comparing discrimination and harassment against the gay community to some polish jokes??? Just checking because as a pole I want to make sure I understand that clearly.

  16. cashdollar October 13, 2010 at 3:14 pm #

    @Bobbycat: it’s not it’s relative experience. Experience running your own business or a small Corp. Doesn’t cut it. Campaigns force him to relate and adapt. The stupidity that he’s going to bring a baseball bat to Albanyis nothing more than an angry man’s wet dream. What has shown that he can work with the senate and assembly. If you don’t like to judge him by the way he campaigns, how about his effort to remake the Partnership? Anyway you cut it, he, not qualified for school board. As for the morals thing, yeah that’d be nice. Personally, I’d be happy with competence and affinity so I can choke back the gag refex when I vote.

  17. DJ October 13, 2010 at 3:20 pm #

    @BobbyCat

    You think that article in the Daily News was a “scoop”? More like a non-issue. Stop the presses: Landlord Cashes Rent Checks. Whoopeee.

  18. Hank October 14, 2010 at 10:16 am #

    Is telling Polish Jokes, compiling books of Polish Jokes OK with you? It’s not OK with me.
    Paladino isn’t being trashed here by telling jokes about homosexuals. He just told the Hassidics that as a Catholic he believes that it is un-natural behavior. That’s not harassment, it’s a statement of the beliefs of the Church. I know not how well he practices his faith, but a contrary opinion based on Holy Scripture is not harassment.

  19. Bbill October 15, 2010 at 8:03 am #

    If you support outsourcing of jobs and destruction of the middle class, if you’re behind the idea of anonymous foreign entities sponsoring (and demanding quid pro quo from) our elected officials, if you are happy to act against your own interests because radio charlatans manipulate your fear and loathing (cough Hank cough) then by all means vote Teabag GOP.

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