Monroe Rising: Complete Lee Silence #NY26

25 Feb

Epic Fail.

It’s now been several weeks since Congressman Chris Lee embarrassed himself and resigned, all in one day.

You may be familiar with Monroe Rising, which is the (one of? who knows) wingnut blog that covers the Rochester area.  For years, they’ve been dutiful regurgitators of Lee press releases and reliable supporters of the well-coiffed, yet sartorially challenged former Congressman.

I am a registered user at Monroe Rising, and have now submitted two benign comments to this article inquiring why they completely ignored the Lee scandal, never mentioned the Lee resignation, never wrote a solitary word about the fact that a portion of Monroe County finds itself unrepresented in Congress due to a sex scandal. That linked-to article is their first mention of NY-26 since Lee’s departure.

The image above shows you what I see when I go to their site; if you aren’t logged in, there are no comments. Note the “No User Responded” heading.

Now, I’m no one to slam someone for being a partisan blogger, but when a huge scandal breaks in quite literally your own congressional backyard, I think you lose a massive amount of credibility by completely ignoring it, as if it never happened.  They were perfectly pleased as punch to report on former Congressman Eric Massa’s own sexual ethical issues, so why does Chris Lee get a complete pass?  Hell, even the local Buffalo Republican bloggers wrote something about it.

Two separate requests for comment sent to the owner of the site have gone unanswered.  I guess Chris Lee only exists when he’s not scandal-ridden.

Fail.

23 Responses to “Monroe Rising: Complete Lee Silence #NY26”

  1. rottenchester February 25, 2011 at 7:18 pm #

    If you want to view the absolute distilled essence of partisanship, MonroeRising is the place to go.  Their simple formula is to nitpick and bitch about anything a Democrat does, and anything that might possibly benefit Democrats, while turning the blindest of blind eyes to Republicans. Good on you to call them out on their bullshit, but it does no good — I’ve done it many times with little result.  They look at politics like a sporting event, and the Republicans are their team.

  2. Bbill February 25, 2011 at 7:49 pm #

    Don’t expect them to mention this either:

    http://www.wben.com/Gawker–Lee-Advertised-for-Crossdressers–Transexu/9285100

    It’s surprising to see WBEN did though! Why do so many right wing men have such complicated repression issues? (That question just may have answered itself)

  3. Jackson Smiles February 25, 2011 at 7:58 pm #

    The Monroe Rising folks are complete jokes. They are worse than Fox News. A bunch of idiot losers in mommy and daddy’s basement each cheesey puffs playing D&D and Warcraft.

  4. Thomas February 25, 2011 at 10:06 pm #

    On there blogroll there is someone called “Roaring Republican,” could this be our boy Lee himself?

  5. RaChaCha February 25, 2011 at 10:28 pm #

    Unfortunately, the folks in the city and county of my birth are relatively lacking in sophistication in matters of “new media” compared to their neighbors to the west. As it happens, this week I’ve been fighting a somewhat similar battle involving the management of online content by Rochester’s alt weekly, City Newspaper. The editor, Mary Anna Towler, has been all but openly shilling for the “powerbrokers” faction in the political earthquake (well, by Rochester standards) over the election to fill the mayoral vacancy left when Bob Duffy went to Albany to be Lt. Governor. This week, when I posted a comment on City’s online site questioning the nature and timing of a recent City Hall personnel change, she held my comment in moderation until she had obtained a rebuttal from the City Hall spokesperson. Then, an hour later, she suddenly changed key information in the spokesperson’s “quote” without any indication or explanation. Well, when I questioned that — and why some other, contrary-but-otherwise-innocuous comments were being deleted entirely from moderation — she deleted my comment from moderation! Fortunately, the co-founder of the Smugtown Beacon — an online publication that loves to go after pomposity in public life — was interested in this, and posted an article on the Beacon website today:
    http://smugtownbeacon.com/news.php?viewStory=650

    So, to recap all the poor online conduct shown in this ONE situation: (1) holding someone’s comment critical of City Hall until you can post it along with a rebuttal from City Hall, (2) suddenly changing material information in what was purported to be a cut-and-paste quote from a public official’s email, (3) refusing to post contrary-but-otherwise-innocuous comments, (4) providing no way for anyone to question or “call out” this conduct — without having to go to a rival publication to try to get them to squawk.

    So with that situtation in mind, on top of Pundit’s experience with Monroe Rising, I’d say to folks in Rochester/Monroe (my fellow countrymen and women): you need to ease up, be less prickly and — yes — less anal. Let discussion happen, and drop the pretense that you can or should block or control it. Because in the end, you really can’t. And if you try, you’ll just come across as a dork and a prick — and get left waaaay behind. Nkay–? Nkay.

  6. RaChaCha February 25, 2011 at 10:50 pm #

    Also about Monroe Rising: their action (inaction, really) in the face of the Lee scandal strikes me as positively Alfred E. Newmanesque: what Lee scandal? What — me worry?

  7. Allen Miller February 26, 2011 at 12:59 am #

    Allan, I checked it out. your facts are incorrect. They had quite a few posts since the date of your comment. I commented here with a snarky arrogant comment about your unshaven face being as disgusting as chris lees body, but you did not permit it. Why should they approve your comemnt it seemed like it was nothing but an attempt to control their blog. All these blogs are just partisan baloney. You may think you are the next pulitzer prize winner but you are just the flip side of the coin from monroe rising. Do you lett hem control what you post here? I doubt it.

    • Alan Bedenko February 26, 2011 at 1:55 pm #

      @Allen Miller: your “snarky” “arrogant” comment was deleted because it was off-topic and merely insulting to me personally. The fact that this comment in this thread is published underscores how wrong you are.

      As for the remainder of what you wrote, and Mike in WNY’s comment, what Rottenchester wrote is 100% on-point.

  8. Brian February 26, 2011 at 7:12 am #

    Republicans lie.  T.R. was the only good one and he bolted. Lincoln freed the slaves to depress the cost of labor for his precious railroads.  Reading the words of a Republican destroys synapses.

  9. Mike In WNY February 26, 2011 at 9:26 am #

    I see no significant difference between MR’s comment handling and a biased, inaccurate rant with comments closed. You are both entitled to handle comments any way you want, but this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

  10. Chris Charvella February 26, 2011 at 9:44 am #

    Alan’s choice to close comments (the first time I’ve ever seen him do it by the way, no matter how aggressive the dissenters) is a far cry from MonroeRising’s choice to filter out comments that make them look like Republican hacks.

    Alan obviously welcomes dissent and feels confident enough in his positions to defend them if necessary. The only logical reason I see for MR to mod out comments calling them shills is their simple realization that that’s exactly what they are.

  11. rottenchester February 26, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    Mike in WNY typifies the type of argument that you’ll see at MonroeRising.  As long as you can find some kind of equivalency, however slight, “both sides do it” so there’s nothing to see.

    Of course, the point isn’t that they didn’t publish Alan’s comment, but that they didn’t mention Lee’s resignation, not once, and published the Corwin announcement without any explanation why there’s a special election in NY-26.  For a blog that has a tagline “Political Information – Without a Liberal Bias”, the they seem to be falling short on the “information” part of their mission.   Or perhaps it’s “liberal bias” to report that Chris Lee resigned and there’s going to be a special election.

  12. Allen Miller February 28, 2011 at 8:56 am #

    @Alan Bedenko: Yes it was on purpose to see if you would post it Your comment on Lee to MR was off topic. It was a post on Jane Corwin. Your snarky arrogant insulting comment implied that the people at monroe rising did not know how to read newspapers. if you had commented on Jane Corwin it would have been approved. But you chose to make a point of Chris Lee and not a word about Corwin. You did not like that they do not want to post on chris lee. You and most other papers took care of the matter quite well. Lee is a disgrace no doubt. However they do not have to post because you want them to. For example Rottenchester has a blog based on the 29th and he chose to stop publishing. There still is a 29th for at least another term. Instead of a whole bunch of conjecture on why he does not post or why he just did not shut down, most people accept it is his right to do so, he does not need to explain as do you why or what you say. If you think so little about MonroeRising just do not go there. If it is that bad soon enough they will stop publishing ang go away or no one will see what they write. I know the opposite it true and that’s what bothers you. BTW seeing as this is on topic I took a screenshot and if it not posted I will go whine somewhere else about it.

    • Alan Bedenko February 28, 2011 at 9:06 am #

      Well, Mr. Miller, asking Monroe Rising about Chris Lee in their first NY-26-related post since Chris Lee’s departure is wholly relevant and on-topic; my comment related to the concept of there being a special election in the first place. To use Rottenchester’s phrase, Monroe Rising simply treated the Corwin candidacy as arising ex nihilio, and I was genuinely curious as to why they’d completely ignore some pretty epic political news in their own district.

      You’ll note that I never wrote that they “have to post” or questioned Monroe Rising’s “right” to do or publish (or omit to publish) anything. What I pointed out was that it was surprising and maybe a bit hypocritical. I’m sure that if I had completely ignored Eric Massa’s unpleasantness, there’d have been people lining up to call me a sellout, a shill, a hypocrite, etc., ad nauseum.

      What I don’t need to publish is gratuitous insults directed at me or anyone else in a thread. Usually, if a comment has even the smallest scintilla of relevance to the subject matter of the post, I’ll let it go through; I err on the side of permission.

      I hope I’ve cleared up some obvious misconceptions that you had.

  13. Allen Miller February 28, 2011 at 9:11 am #

    I would like to make one other shoutout comment to all who have chimed in here. Not really interested in nitpicking point by point. Blogging is an intersting animal, it allows us to be citizen jouralists and use crazy pen names. Because of that we can say what we really want and that is a good thing. I may disagree with many points. Yes at times I am a republican hack and many of you at times are some party hack. That is fine and thats how it works and thanks to our great country we can debate it until the cows come home and no one will ever be truly right or wrong. We all like to blog and anyone of us can start there own at no cost except your time. We then are free to say what we want or be as silent as we want. One interesting note is that many of these blogs who disagree have links to each other. We may disagree, we may not even like each other, but we do need each other.

  14. Allen Miller February 28, 2011 at 9:30 am #

    Alan, Hope you don’t mid me calling you Alan? As I stated in comment 15 before you posted back. (Guess we are both pounding away) you have the right to do so. I never had any misconceptions. So please explain to me that when my friend Jackson Smiles said ” A bunch of idiot losers in mommy and daddy’s basement each cheesey puffs playing D&D and Warcraft” you did not see that as gratuitous? you stated “I was genuinely curious as to why they’d completely ignore some pretty epic political news in their own district” Writing often sends a message not intended, it seemed more like “ab irato” (not a lawyer but I took four years of latin myself, so I guess I can try to impress as well). Once again I state it is your right to post as you want and MR to post as they want or be silent. They need not expalin as do you. In parting just let me say “abusus non tollit usum”

  15. Alan Bedenko February 28, 2011 at 9:46 am #

    1. Jackson Smiles’ comment was completely relevant to the topic of Monroe Rising. That’s his opinion of them. 

    2. I wasn’t trying to “impress” with my use of Latin; I specifically attributed the use of that term to someone else, and it wasn’t used in a legal sense. 

    3. I’m not angry at Monroe Rising.  I’m exposing them for being hypocritical and a strange political blog that ignores big political events. 

    4. I never said Monroe Rising had no right to do anything. I suggested that it was hypocritical of them.  Hell, I even gave the blog’s owner two (2!) opportunities to comment on this, not counting the two (2!) unposted comments I left on the subject.  I’d say I was (a) not angry; and (b) exceedingly – over cautiously – fair. 

  16. Allen Miller February 28, 2011 at 10:09 am #

    Let me restate you consider “A bunch of idiot losers in mommy and daddy’s basement each cheesey puffs playing D&D and Warcraft” relevant and non gratuitous??? I am sure you know the meaning of the word, it was unwarranted. I have a suspicion he was sitting in mommy and daddy’s basement eating cheesepuffs playing games when he wrote the comment. So what you gave them two notices. What are you a mashall with a warrant? This blog and many of its commenters drip with hypocracy. Hypocracy is a defacto (little more latin) means of communication on most of these blogs. It is impossible to live your life without hypocracy. Politics would not be possible without it. I am going to be generous to you and say that you are right the whole situation is res ipsa loquitur (even many non lawyers know what that means). Its been fun jousting with you, you are an intelligent man but I think the desire to write this post was because you did not like the fact that they ignored you which is their right. Your right was to post this and you have done so. God bless America

    • Alan Bedenko February 28, 2011 at 10:14 am #

      1. I think what Jackson Smiles wrote was insulting, but relevant to the topic. I didn’t use the word “gratuitous” to describe it; you did.

      2. I’m not a “marshall with a warrant”; I’m a liberal blogger who was criticized as recently as 2 weeks ago for what he wrote about Eric Massa last year. At least I had the intellectual consistency to write about it at all.

      3. It’s difficult to reply to your charge of “hypocrasy” [sic] when you don’t explain how it is that I’m being hypocritical. Maybe you just wrote that gratuitously.

      4. Again, this post had nothing to do with anyone’s “rights”. Continuing to bring up “rights” is also, at this point, “gratuitous”.

  17. rottenchester February 28, 2011 at 10:16 am #

    My stopping writing entirely is completely different from a blog that’s a going concern, and covering NY-26, completely ignoring the biggest story to ever hit that district.  It would be like me not saying a word about the Massa disaster, when I did the opposite, by covering it in every ugly detail.  But, nice try, you’ve dragged yet another red herring into the argument. Unfortunately for your effort to distract, it hasn’t escaped my notice that, while you’ve been flinging poo over here, you have yet to give a reason why Monroe Rising completely ignored the Lee story.  

    By the way, there’s a real conservative blog in Rochester, Mustard Street (http://mustardstreet.blogspot.com), that allows relevant negative comments and has also posted about the Lee story.  There’s no need for conservative blogs to be as bad as Monroe Rising.

  18. Allen Miller February 28, 2011 at 10:27 am #

    Alan

    You need not publish this but the point I am making about rights is that it is their right to be silent. You want to know why they did not say anything, fair enough. What they chose to do is say nothing. You may disagree, you may not like it. They have a right to have a agenda to be political. By not publishing they are excecising their rights. All blogs do not have to be about dialogue and doing what is newsworthy.

  19. Allen Miller February 28, 2011 at 2:39 pm #

    Rottenchester,
    The point is why do they have to? Because you or Allan want a discussion and make sure it is in every blog? Because it is a large magnitude story? You often have convoluted reasons for doing things, thats fine you do what you want for whatever reason you want. You are right in one of your comments they have an agenda and it is to get republicans elected. To that end they can do what they see fit. This post and most of the comments refuse to accept that. They have a blog that fit into what they believe a blog should be. Mustard street is a great blog that I enjoy as well. I see that you comment there, many of the MR people do as well. I noticed in a recent post you criticized them saying something along the lines of you think they should be better. (steve zodiac post) . If I think that a blog about the 29th district should continue to post as long as there is a 29th district does that mean you should? The answer is absolutly not. It is your blog and you can do with it as you want. MR has its blog and they can do what they want within their mission. Thanks to the first ammendment the answer is more speech. You have done what you can do about it, gripe and criticize. Maybe if you are lucky they will go away or write a post about how rottenchester is perfect and they made a mistake about not posting on Chris Lee. I would not hold my breath.

  20. Hank March 1, 2011 at 12:43 pm #

    “Lincoln freed the slaves to depress the cost of labor for his precious railroads”

    Read your history, dumbass. The Irish and the Chinese built the railroads. Democrats are stupid, and stupid cannot be fixed.

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