The Death of Compromise

29 Jul

Congressman Brian Higgins (NY-27) breaks down what’s going on right now in Washington, as Speaker John Boehner (OH-8) can’t get his caucus to back a horrible plan to cut spending and raise the debt ceiling, but re-engage in this process in 6 months – a plan that won’t see the light of day in the Senate.

One of the stories coming out of last night’s aborted vote indicated that cuts would be further sharpened, affecting Pell Grants.

The differences couldn’t be more stark now: the Republicans, led by the tail by the tea party, want to further hurt the poor and middle class in order to ensure that the wealthy are protected. The Democrats, led weakly by an increasingly feckless President, want to further hurt the poor and middle class by cutting federal Medicare and Social Security entitlements and gently repeal the Bush tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans.

This – and the death of compromise – is why the #fuckyouWashington hashtag has become so popular on Twitter.

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28 Responses to “The Death of Compromise”

  1. Jim Ostrowski July 30, 2011 at 8:31 am #

    Boehner is not a member of the tea party movement and his bill should be opposed by anyone who is. It raises the debt limit by $900B and contains no real cuts. The two presidential candidates who are in the TP movement both voted against the bill. The proper approach is to cut spending and sell government assets. I could drop $500B without touching entitlements. Increasing the debt limit essentially involves the Greatest Generation and their Baby Boomer children borrowing mony from their children and grandchildren to pay for the campaign promises of FDR, LBJ, Bush and Obama. It’s morally abhorrent. I can’t listen to ten minutes of Higgins because Brian doesn’t have a clue.

  2. Bbill July 30, 2011 at 9:32 am #

    It makes sense that the teabaggers would oppose Pell Grants — any first world nation depends on an educated work force, whereas the teabaggers need people to be really, really stupid in order for them to get votes.

    It’s always party over country and billionaires over the middle class with these reprehensible economic terrorists.

  3. Brian Wood July 30, 2011 at 11:04 am #

    Obama and the Dems are slow to learn what
    Chamberlain learned after Munich: you cannot negotiate or compromise with fascists.

  4. Jim Ostrowski July 30, 2011 at 11:31 am #

    Wow, the quality of argument here is stunning.

    • Alan Bedenko July 30, 2011 at 1:04 pm #

      The tea party won’t be happy until they plunge the world into depression and get the Kenyan out of office.

  5. bill July 30, 2011 at 11:53 am #

    Hey Jim, remember when Jack Davis donated money to Brian Higgins? I do. Tea Party my ass

  6. Bbill July 30, 2011 at 12:06 pm #

    The quality of rebuttal here is somewhat less than stunning.

    If you advocate in favor of runaway inflation to accompany high unemployment (for just one example among the comprehensive economic catastrophe the teabaggers are planning), yet paradoxically call yourself a “patriot”, expect some pushback from the adults in the room.

  7. Andy July 30, 2011 at 12:40 pm #

    It’s you, Jim, who doesnt have a clue. Why don’t you get off the internets and go back preparing to lead your next candidate into last place? You know – lead with your strength. 

  8. Bbill July 30, 2011 at 1:04 pm #

    Hopefully this formats ok:

    Inequality Index
    · Percentage of U.S. total income in 1976 that went to the top 1% of American households: 8.9.
    · Percentage in 2007: 23.5.
    · Only other year since 1913 that the top 1 percent’s share was that high: 1928.
    · Combined net worth of the Forbes 400 wealthiest Americans in 2007: $1.5 trillion.
    · Combined net worth of the poorest 50% of American households: $1.6 trillion.
    · U.S. minimum wage, per hour: $7.25.
    · Hourly pay of Chesapeake Energy CEO Aubrey McClendon, for an 80-hour week: $27,034.74.
    · Average hourly wage in 1972, adjusted for inflation: $20.06.
    · In 2008: $18.52.

    http://keepthemiddleclassalive.com/facts/

    This is the direct result of the sham and fraud known as “trickle down economics” that has destroyed the middle class and that the teabaggers want to perpetuate and exacerbate. And we thought the neocons were bad. The American right wing is the biggest existential threat to our country today; Al Qaeda envies the effectiveness of the teabaggers.

  9. Jim Ostrowski July 30, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

    My point is, instead of answering my points, you attack me. The reason is you’re dumb and incapable of engaging in intelligent dialogue. Any sixth grader can spew insults.

    Jack BTW called for immediate spending cuts of $250B. Corwin? An increase of $3.3B.

  10. Mike In WNY July 30, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    Higgins, the King of Pork, has no credibility when it comes to government spending.

  11. Bbill July 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm #

    My point is, instead of answering my points, you attack me. The reason is you’re dumb and incapable of engaging in intelligent dialogue.

    LOL! Self-awareness is not these folks’ strong point.

  12. Rob July 30, 2011 at 1:19 pm #

    ”The reason is you’re dumb.”

    Ah, nothing like intelligent debate. Also a key reason why your Coalition is so popular.

    Maybe if told twice as many liberals they’re dumb you could get your meet-up group membership into double digits? Just an idea.

  13. Rob July 30, 2011 at 1:20 pm #

    Maybe if you told . . .

  14. Jim Ostrowski July 30, 2011 at 2:17 pm #

    It’s classic to confuse the reaction of the muggee with the actions of the mugger. It’s another sign of dumbness.

  15. jimd July 30, 2011 at 2:23 pm #

    I really try to avoid spewing negativity on this site but one of the biggest wastes of my time in recent memory was listening to Mr Ostrowski and Dave DiPietro bloviate on WECK a few months ago. These people are crazier than a shithouse rat. Some awful blend of religious zealotry and anarchy. The frightening thing to me is some of their ilk actually were elected in 2010. One can only hope sanity reigns in 2012. I’m no huge fan of President Obama but given the alternatives so far, how could he not get re-elected?

  16. saltecks July 30, 2011 at 2:41 pm #

    Some of the Congressmen who vehemently oppose raising the debt limit, without strings attached, are the same politicians who voted for 1) Two wars, which are unfunded 2) A “where are the Jobs after 10 years” Tax cut which is unfunded, and 3) A “HHS cannot negotiate on the price” Medicare Drug plan which, unlike the rest of Medicare is unfunded.

    Now , some of these same politicians are trying to do an end run around the constitution by surreptitiously castrating any number of funding bills which have been approved by two houses of Congress, signed by the executive, and in many cases approved by the courts.

    Want to reduce the deficit? Then revisit legislation thru proper channels. Let your constituents see where you really stand on the issues, and who you really represent.

  17. rastamick July 31, 2011 at 11:11 am #

    Obama should cut out the middleman. aka Congressional Teapartarians and Republican wannabees, here they all are ( http://s3.amazonaws.com/atrfiles/files/files/072911-federalpledgesigners.pdf) and deal directly with Grover the Norquist. How is it a Republican lobbyist has more power over these so called elected officials than the constituents who sent them to Washington ? Oh I know if you don’t vote against the debt ceiling you are going to face a primary where Grover will hand pick your successor and the same gaggle of dolts will run shrieking to the polls once again to vote themselves into the poor house. They may however get a FOX NEWS adjusto-strap hat to wear in the soupline though so it’s all good. 

  18. Newsguy July 31, 2011 at 10:08 pm #

    I’m just amazed how many Americans buy what the Republican party is selling. The Republicans are all about protecting the rich. They don’t give a damn about the rest of us. If they did, they wouldn’t be calling for only cuts without responsible increases in revenue. Please, I’m not saying federal government spending shouldn’t be cut. It needs to be! There’s a lot of waste. But these loopholes that allow oil companies earning obscene profits should be eliminated, too. What’s wrong with that? The Republicans love touting the line that in our personal budgets, if we don’t have the revenue to meet our expenses that we have to make cuts. True enough. But in most of these households, many of these people are finding a second job, to increase revenue to make ends meet. It’s just not about cuts. You find ways of bringing in more revenue, too. And I laugh at loud at Republicans who argue “we can’t tax the job creators.” So, where are the jobs? The economy has been in the crapper since the first Bush tax cuts have been enacted. To paraphrase Sarah, “how have these cuts on job creators worked out for ya?” It’s maddening! For 40 years, I’ve put money into Social Security. And when I turn 62, I want to start collecting it. I earned it. And I don’t want some stinkin’ Republican making cuts that will deny me my money. Yeah, it’s an entitlement. But it’s one that I, and millions of other Americans, earned by the money we put in each and every paycheck, from my first one working as a bus boy in the 1970s to the payments I’m now making as a news executive. Now, you’re going to tell me that the money isn’t available because we have to reduce government spending — sorry about that! That’s just unacceptable! It just astounds me how any intelligent American thinks the Republicans are on their side. The Democrats don’t want to raise the taxes of average Americans. They’re ready to support responsible cuts. But it’s the Republicans who are stonewalling by protecting those who are in a position to do more to offset the pain the most vulnerable in our society will feel as government downsizes.

  19. Brian Wood August 1, 2011 at 6:18 am #

    Repubs are doing what repubs since Lincoln, the railroad lawyer, freed the slaves to depress the cost of labor for his precious railroads: SCREW THE WORKERS!!

  20. Mr. F.N. Magoo August 1, 2011 at 7:25 am #

    Lincoln freed the slaves to increase railroad profits?!?! Michelle Bachmann would like that one, Brian. Send her an email.

  21. JudahMaccabbee August 1, 2011 at 12:38 pm #

    This process will NEVER work until there is a discussion of what exactly the federal gov’t should do? Marginal cutting won’t work. IF it is determined that that scope of gov’t is what is should be (or even more, i.e. healthcare) then taxes must go up. IF it is determined that gov’t is already doing to much, then it HAS to stop doing certain things.

    Personally, I’m all for ditching Pell Grants and any subsidization of industry. There are no constitutional mandates for it — if states want to come up with something themselves (like HOPE scholarships in Georgia) than that is up to their citizens. I can only think of ONE program we have cut in recent memory; and that is manned space exploration.

    Try this out, pretty fun:

    http://marketplace.publicradio.org/features/budget_hero/

  22. Andy August 1, 2011 at 4:57 pm #

    Jim O – tell us. How many folks have you elected again?

  23. Mr.F.N. Magoo August 1, 2011 at 5:53 pm #

    Kind of confused by equating corn subsidies with helping middle and lower income kids get to college. Leaving the benefits of education to the people who can already afford it would just intensify the migration of wealth to the already-privileged while eliminating corn subsidies would just balance the scales. But if your handle is a celebration of suicide, I can see where you’re coming from.

  24. Jim Ostrowski August 1, 2011 at 11:09 pm #

    Andy (fake name), it’s a dumb question since no one person is responsible for electing anyone or failing to do so. Since I have been involved in elections for 43 years, I doubt this is the right forum to review all the campaigns I have worked on and the results and my own contributions.

    • Alan Bedenko August 2, 2011 at 6:05 am #

      It’s his real name.

  25. Hank August 2, 2011 at 4:52 pm #

    The Republicans don’t give a damn about the rest of us—Why? Because they won’t give you money for nothing? If your taxes are too high, perhaps you should move to a state where they aren’t, Because NYS is never going to elect legislators who want to lower your taxes. Just like the dinks in DC, they’re more worried about getting re-elected than doing what you sent them there to do. That applies to BOTH parties. Stand in a bucket and try to pick it up by the handle—-that’s how well higher taxes work to end a recession. In the bucket since Bush tax cuts? Unemployment in 2004 was 4.5%. Odumbo and the gang spent a trillion to get it below 8, but it never got there, did it? Several trillion dollars in “pump priming” and not a job out of it. Nobody listening here, just keep moving along—-Look at everything DC has done for WNY since 2009—-Keep looking, and don’t eat or drink anything until you find it.

  26. Andy August 2, 2011 at 8:53 pm #

    So, Jim O (real name which should probably be fake because he’s a miserable failure), the answer is zero. Asked and answered. Well, at least you have a non-existent client base to fall back on. Are they still paying you with kittens?

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