Imagine What We Can Do Together In and For Erie County

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20 Responses to “Imagine What We Can Do Together In and For Erie County”

  1. Allen Miller November 8, 2011 at 9:44 am #

    Is John Lennon big in Buffalo?

    Hey Remember when you said we were a liberal nation?

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-poll-conservatives-42-liberals-21

  2. Ward November 8, 2011 at 10:26 am #

    Congratulations, in advance, on the County Attorney appointment.

  3. MJC November 8, 2011 at 10:34 am #

    I conducted my own poll. I found that insecure, racist morons (the type who eat up everything that Fox/Limbaugh tell them to think) outnumber intelligent, reasonable people by a two-to-one margin.

  4. Allen Miller November 8, 2011 at 10:37 am #

    Imagine there’s no Hot Dog Vendors
    It’s easy if you are OWS

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/socal-street-cart-vendors-hurting-after-occupy-group-splatters-blood-urine/

    Polancarz has perfect hair can we Imagine ourselves trusting him? Can we trust him to park in legal spots?

  5. Allen Miller November 8, 2011 at 10:42 am #

    MJC

    First you need to learn how to count before you can conduct your own poll.

  6. MJC November 8, 2011 at 11:06 am #

    That was a really cutting and incisive remark, Allen Miller. If your retorts are any indication of your general intelligence level, I now better understand your allegiance to the GOP.

    I love how the Fox News automatons always trot out stats showing that they outnumber liberals, or that their news network gets better ratings than MSNBC, as some sort of proof of their superiority.

    McDonald’s does more business than Buffalo Chophouse, “Two and a Half Men” has been the top comedy for years, and Justin Beiber and Nickelback sell a hell of a lot more records than Radiohead. The lowest common denominator always sells in this bankrupt democracy. Be proud!

  7. Bbill November 8, 2011 at 11:27 am #

    If you go by issue polling, you’ll see that Americans by and large reject the Fox “News” narrative and favor the egalitarian or common-sense approach:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/trends.aspx

    One thing the wingers have been effective at has been hammering simplistic messages for the low-information voter (or their own propeller-on-the-beanie base) and have succeeded in demonizing the word “liberal”. But people haven’t completely been hoodwinked into abandoning their own interests. Yet.

  8. Jimbob November 8, 2011 at 12:51 pm #

    @Ward…he hasn’t a chance in hell to get that post approved by the ECL with his foul mouth rantings…that’s what happens when you use the f word so liberally in your public writings.  I’m sure he would love the 150k job, but it will never happen.  He’s lucky to be still a lawyer…

    • Alan Bedenko November 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

      Hey, Jimbob – fuck you.

  9. Allen Miller November 8, 2011 at 3:09 pm #

    BBill you and MCJ sure are smart.

    I truly wonder how you and MCJ know what I read listen or watch? We all watch and listen to media that reinforces what we believe. We tend to believe polls that reinforce our beliefs and reject those that we disagree with.

    I personally come here because sometimes I agree with what Alan Bedenko says and sometimes I think he could not be farther from the truth. A lot of time I just think he is spinning and thats OK by me. I like to have my beliefs challenged. Lately I come and post because I am making an attempt to do a virtual occupation. Kind of give the supporters of Occupy Whatever an idea of what its like to be disruptive just beacuse you disagree with someone.

    For the record I occasionally listen to Limbaugh, never Glenn Beck, I like CNN’s Anderson Cooper he has a ton of money and can relate to the 99%. I watch a lot of CNBC and FoxBusiness mainly for business reasons. I am part of the top 2.67% income group, which makes me part of the 99% but most of the OWS crowd has trouble with math. I am working towards being part of the 1%. I also belong to a 10% club that commits to donating 1/10 of my gross to local charities. But then again I do not need to tell MCJ or BBill any of this. They already have me figured out as a racist knuckle dragging dummy. So its a lot easier to just quote Alan Bedenko and say “Fuck You”

  10. Bbill November 8, 2011 at 7:31 pm #

    Allen, my earlier post was not about you but this one is.

    Kind of give the supporters of Occupy Whatever an idea of what its like to be disruptive just beacuse you disagree with someone.

    “just because you disagree with someone”???? The middle class is getting crushed and it’s just a polite difference of opinion? Wow.

  11. Allen Miller November 8, 2011 at 9:58 pm #

    Bbill

    As I have so often stated I do not disagree with the message of OWS. I disagree with the tactics and methods. Small business after business are having issues with the movement. People are having their civil rights trampled upon while OWS claims to be fighting for them. Often I get down to NYC wall street area, there is a deli at 40 wall street that is great, last week he had to let over 20 people go because of a massive drop in business. These people were waitresses, clerks, cooks who are part of the bottom 50% forget the 99%. How less egalitarian can you be?

    you complain about

    >>succeeded in demonizing the word “liberal”

    That is sad, I have often considered myself a classic liberal. In human nature people often use default arguments. The radical community organizer from Chicago Saul Alinsky taught us – “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage”.

    Both groups ridicule and use default arguments. The left has the default argument racist and dumb. Just look at this post. MJC he knows nothing about me, what did he use as a default argument? “Racist” then Alinksy rule no 11 was used and pooled me in with Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. Which no one has no idea if I watch and listen.

    Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

    Bottom line is we have a free democratic system, If you want change go and create it, if enough people agree you will get that change. That happened in 2008 and it was squandered to the point we had change again in 2010. If you choose to trample on other peoples right because you think your argument is superior you will get nothing but push back.

  12. BrianS. November 9, 2011 at 1:52 am #

    And FUCK Rush Limbaugh too.

  13. Jesse November 9, 2011 at 7:55 am #

    Wow, good to see everyone behaving nicely after an honest, hard-fought campaign.

    I was 50/50 on this one, and I agree with Esmonde that Collins’ loss is mostly about his personality.  Now all that’s left is to hope for the best.

    Is Poloncarz more or less amenable to regionalism?  Consolidation?  How pathetic is it to see party bosses getting their pants in a knot about piddly little town supervisor races? (Langworthless on Lancaster, for instance)

    Also, Am I the only one who #fucking #hates #seeing #hashtags #everywhere?

  14. Max November 9, 2011 at 8:44 am #

    Poloncarz’s strengths will be tested by Erie County’s ongoing fiscal challenges but in considering the interests and needs of County residents at large, I’m confident he’ll make far more balanced and competant decisons than the incumbent did.

  15. Bbill November 9, 2011 at 8:49 am #

    Also, Am I the only one who #fucking #hates #seeing #hashtags #everywhere?

    There are at least two of us.

    Allen, here are some fresh poll results that seem to belie the narrative:

    http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/election-results-once-voters-really-u

  16. Allen Miller November 9, 2011 at 11:37 am #

    @13 BrianS.

    You may be OK with wanting to fuck Limbaugh. But the thought of it repulses me. I have this thing on the radio that changes channels, however walking around a crowd of people occupying the front of your business is a little harder.

    Congrats to Polancarz, change without occupation. We do not have to imagine any more. I hope he is everything you want. In Monroe County we kept our very popular Republican supervisor Maggie Brooks. Many considered the democrat Sandy Frankel trying to replace her as “Insane”. Personally I thought she was a nice lady, just didn’t like her management record from the town she came from, which was mine.

  17. Peter A Reese November 9, 2011 at 9:35 pm #

    There will be some tough times ahead for Erie County, but it will be nice to feel that the government is not being run entirely for the benefit of the leeches at the BNP and the Buffalo Club.      ღ♫♥Ʒ♥♫ღ them all.

  18. Allen Miller November 10, 2011 at 10:36 am #

    ღ♫♥Ʒ♥♫ღ that is the most creative use of profanity I have seen around here yet.

    Don’t worry they will have their own group of leeches, only difference will be that they are your leeches

  19. Kevin J. November 10, 2011 at 11:21 am #

    You don’t appear to know Mr. Reese very well. 

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